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| marky_b27 wrote: | 43 defense - Dion Jordan or Ezekiel Ansah or Alex Okafor
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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TBH, Ziggy Ansah would have been a perfect JJ DE. He could line up inside, outside, he could stand up in the joker role.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| marky_b27 wrote: | | TBH, Ziggy Ansah would have been a perfect JJ DE. He could line up inside, outside, he could stand up in the joker role. |
JJ Watts, or Jim Johnson?
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| marky_b27 wrote: | 43 defense - Dion Jordan or Ezekiel Ansah or Alex Okafor
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1A Damontre Moore
1B Bjoern Werner
3 Alex Okafor
4 Ezekial Ansah
5 Sam Montgomery
6 Dion Jordan
Is how I would rate them
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe that Dion Jordan has enough agility be a SAM linebacker. You look at the success the Giants have had with a tall SAM and that's something to consider. Carlons Emmons was a tall SAM. Kendricks is a joke. He has no upside. What we are seeing is pretty much what he is. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| PowerElite wrote: | | I believe that Dion Jordan has enough agility be a SAM linebacker. You look at the success the Giants have had with a tall SAM and that's something to consider. Carlons Emmons was a tall SAM. Kendricks is a joke. He has no upside. What we are seeing is pretty much what he is. |
Isn't Mathias Kiwanuka a once DE now their SAM? Or WILL?
And you do know Kendricks is a rookie....right? 
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I wouldn't use the a top 10 pick in this draft on a QB. There just not really "The Guy", or a huge leap from the #1 QB to the #6th ranked. I think it shows even the NCAA Ranked Teams, The National Championship and the Bowls game , they are not very dominant teams. The Ducks Mariota IMO is the best QB in the country, he could be a better version of RGIII , but hes a young'n and wont come out for a few years. That guy "THE GUY!" the Lucks RGIII's Philip Rivers Eli Mannings Ben Roethlisberger Matt Ryans Joe Flaccos Cam Newtons Jake Lockers Sam Bradfords Matthew Staffords.
No QB taken in this draft will become a top 10 quarterback to compete with the top 5 quarterbacks with any time soon.
And with a top 5 pick, in a draft that there is not any weapons that can potential help your "future franchise QB(to be taken down the road)", you have to draft a player who can stop the leagues top quarterbacks. Its a quarterback driven league which translate to the draft as, spend your first round picks on either the franchise QB/freaky once and a life time weapon for a franchise QB/or player on defense to stop the leagues top franchise quarterbacks.
We have to go defensive line or trade way down for the future and go BPA.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| PowerElite wrote: | | I believe that Dion Jordan has enough agility be a SAM linebacker. You look at the success the Giants have had with a tall SAM and that's something to consider. Carlons Emmons was a tall SAM. Kendricks is a joke. He has no upside. What we are seeing is pretty much what he is. |
I see some Manny Lawson. Tall, rangy, athletic. |
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Dion Jordan is a freaky freaky athlete. If he lost 20 pounds he would run a 4.3...Serious.. Ducks media has mentioned the idea that Jordan could play anything if he wanted to. His 40/10 yard splits will be sick but i think people will be shocked to see him in the cone drill and shuttle as well as position drills..You know how AJ Green is a freaky fluid athlete for a dude that big and like doesn't ever look stiff despite being huge, Jordan is that kinda athlete at DE..
I bet you could play him all over..
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| Bednarik60 wrote: | Dion Jordan is a freaky freaky athlete. If he lost 20 pounds he would run a 4.3...Serious.. Ducks media has mentioned the idea that Jordan could play anything if he wanted to. His 40/10 yard splits will be sick but i think people will be shocked to see him in the cone drill and shuttle as well as position drills..You know how AJ Green is a freaky fluid athlete for a dude that big and like doesn't ever look stiff despite being huge, Jordan is that kinda athlete at DE..
I bet you could play him all over.. |
I'd be awesome to see a Wily vet at Def. Coordinator that could really unlock his potential and use him in a couple different ways. (Like JJ did with Dawk)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Kiltman wrote: | | Bednarik60 wrote: | Dion Jordan is a freaky freaky athlete. If he lost 20 pounds he would run a 4.3...Serious.. Ducks media has mentioned the idea that Jordan could play anything if he wanted to. His 40/10 yard splits will be sick but i think people will be shocked to see him in the cone drill and shuttle as well as position drills..You know how AJ Green is a freaky fluid athlete for a dude that big and like doesn't ever look stiff despite being huge, Jordan is that kinda athlete at DE..
I bet you could play him all over.. |
I'd be awesome to see a Wily vet at Def. Coordinator that could really unlock his potential and use him in a couple different ways. (Like JJ did with Dawk) |
can he play sagety like Biermann does?
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I really really want Dion Jordan. Him or Ezekial Ansah....both are freaks. I think both will end up being future All-Pros. Lucky for us, this pass rushing class is deep so we can prob get one of them in the 2nd....
B60....I disagree. Geno is that guy. He has all the tools.to be a franchise quarterback. He would have been the third QB taken last year...ahead of Tannehill.
I'm not as high on Wilson as I was before..but I still like him. I just don't ever see him being elite like I do with Geno....I see him as being a Jay Cutler/Tony Romo...pretty good and consistently top 12-15...but never elite. Id be OK.with taking him if we traded down to get him...
Ryan Nassib is starting.to intrigue me in the 2nd round....he could be our Dalton.
Also why does everyone keep.mentioning Demantre Moore? I thought he already has said that he's staying in school....or did he change his mind?
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| baconrad3 wrote: | | I really really want Dion Jordan. Him or Ezekial Ansah....both are freaks. I think both will end up being future All-Pros. Lucky for us, this pass rushing class is deep so we can prob get one of them in the 2nd.... |
I'm going to make my call and say that Bjoern Werner, Dion Jordan and Ezekiel Ansah are the first three pass rushers selected. And Dion Jordan and Ezekiel Ansah are in contention to be the first defensive player drafted. I have zero clue why they're not getting more attention but make no mistake, come February after the combine ESPN and NFL Network are going to be talking about how much they love those two.
Those two are super underrated. Dion Jordan is an absurd athlete with fantastic length and incredible bend shape around the edge. People say that Jordan is versatile but I think he's pretty strictly a 3-4 OLB as he doesn't have the bulk to play as a 4-3 DE and putting him at OLB in a 4-3 defense would be a misuse of his pass rushing skills.
And given the recent success of Jason Pierre-Paul, Aldon Smith and Chandler Jones, Ezekiel Ansah is going to be a hot commodity as teams look to get in on the action. And he's way more versatile than Dion Jordan, he can play LB, DE or DT. He's the prospect that Quinton Coples was supposed to be.
These guys are huge prospects just waiting for the casual fan to catch on. If we want one I suspect we'll need to take one with our first.
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If we keep our super high pick, I want a pass rusher there. No tackles we don't need.
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Margus Hunt. Go!
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