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Tom Shean · Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 4739 Location: Tha 703

Are you purposely ignoring the other points I made?

I don't know how you expect Luck to have a great completion percentage in Arians' scheme with that line, that running game, and those receivers. Sure, he hasn't done as well as he can, but he has not struggled with his accuracy outside of a few games.
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Rosstafarian · Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 667

I'm not going to try and pretend to be an offensive guru and break down what kind of offense each rookie QB is playing in, but RGIII's offense seems like it would lend itself better to minimizing mistakes. He's doing a lot of read-option stuff in pistol formations, but if you watch the passing game it's 1 read then ball has to be out. 1 read, then the ball is out. While he is great at passing the ball in between the numbers, I don't think he's having to dissect nearly as much of the defense with what Washington is doing in comparison to what Luck has to do in Indy. On top of Indy probably having about as much talent on it's roster as the Rams did when Bradford came into the league, Luck looks scary to me.

Yeah he's thrown a lot of INT's, and his completion % isn't all that hot, but outside of Wayne, he's got basically no real veteran receiving options. Couple that with the Colts defensive side of the ball being. . . mediocre at best, Andrew Luck has to do a crapload of heavy lifting in order to get the Colts where they are. I do think that the Colts are one of the worst 8-4 teams I've seen in awhile, but the one part of that record that isn't a mirage is Luck.

It's pretty damn bogus to be a team in the AFCS and watch the Colts go from Manning to Luck, because Manning was an all time great, and Luck looks to be heading in that direction as well.

Ketchup · Joined: 13 May 2009 Posts: 17991 Location: Milwaukee, WI

Tom Shean · Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 4739 Location: Tha 703

Well I certainly wasn't arguing that he's on a level with Manning, Rodgers, or Roethlisberger. Those standards are far too high for a rookie QB leading a team that just went 2-14 last year.
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Ketchup · Joined: 13 May 2009 Posts: 17991 Location: Milwaukee, WI

Tom Shean · Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 4739 Location: Tha 703

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RavensDefense3 · Joined: 21 Apr 2011 Posts: 2337 Location: Baltimore

1.RG3

2.Rusell Wilson
3.Luck
4.Weeden

Luck's overhyped imo.

Tom Shean · Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 4739 Location: Tha 703

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Tom Shean · Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 4739 Location: Tha 703

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BBIB · Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 8771

Andrew Luck is overhyped because of how bad Curtis Painter was.

We have all forgotten how good the Colts have been before last year. We forgot all the consecutive 10 win seasons, all the consecutive 12 win seasons.

So we give him too much credit based on Colts record last year and give him a pass on the fact that he leads the league in turnovers

IN reality RGIII is clearly the ROTY right now and Luck hasn't even distinguished himself from Russell Wilson who has decisively looked more impressive vs common opponents

SnA ExclusiVe · Joined: 01 Jun 2011 Posts: 49882 Location: Hillsboro, OR

joru1000 · Joined: 23 Jan 2012 Posts: 3420

Vikings fan here, we played all 3 quarterbacks this season and all 3 beat us (it sucks being a Vikings fan).

RG3 definitely had the best game of the three statistically and his long touchdown scramble sealed the deal. I was most impressed by his accuracy and athleticism, but the majority of his large chunk passes were to unbelievably open receivers over the middle as a result of the pass option exploiting our ever lackluster pass defense led by Erin Henderson, Jasper Brinkley and Jamarca Sanford. Like it was said by someone else though, I think of the three, he is the leading candidate for a significant sophomore slump, but as of right now I think he's the best.

Luck beat us in week 2, and I was really impressed with him. I remember one play where he made a great read and throw by looking off Antoine Winfield, Harrison Smith, and Mistral Raymond and then tossing it up the middle to Reggie Wayne for the long TD. It was a veteran Pro Bowl quarterback move and throw in only his second game. I don't remember much else from that being it was like 3 months ago.

Russell Wilson was great for a rookie against us, but his play style seemed a little too 'all or nothing' for me, kind've like Brett Favre but lacking that throwing power which could burn him badly in the future if he makes a career out of it. He had a great statline with 3 td's and 0 interception but I specifically remember him getting bailed out by Golden Tate on a couple plays in which Tate made some amazing catches that should've otherwise gone incomplete.