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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:43 am    Post subject: 2013 Draft Order Reply with quote

Here's a full draft order. The compensatory picks are according to this source. However, the guy himself is not sure about the order of picks within the individual rounds - and he had a few more potential comp picks identified at the end of the seventh round. Nevertheless, the list may give an idea of what to expect.

Round One

1 ( 1 ) Houston Texans
2 ( 2 ) St. Louis Rams (from Washington Redskins, 2012 draft trade, #2, Robert Griffin III)
3 ( 3 ) Jacksonville Jaguars
4 ( 4 ) Cleveland Browns
5 ( 5 ) Oakland Raiders
6 ( 6 ) Atlanta Falcons
7 ( 7 ) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
8 ( 8 ) Minnesota Vikings
9 ( 9 ) Buffalo Bills
10 ( 10 ) Detroit Lions
11 ( 11 ) Tennessee Titans
12 ( 12 ) New York Giants
13 ( 13 ) St. Louis Rams
14 ( 14 ) Chicago Bears
15 ( 15 ) Pittsburgh Steelers
16 ( 16 ) Dallas Cowboys *
17 ( 17 ) Baltimore Ravens *
18 ( 18 ) New York Jets
19 ( 19 ) Miami Dolphins
20 ( 20 ) Arizona Cardinals
21 ( 21 ) Green Bay Packers
22 ( 22 ) Philadelphia Eagles
23 ( 23 ) Kansas City Chiefs
24 ( 24 ) Cincinnati Bengals
25 ( 25 ) San Diego Chargers
26 ( 26 ) Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis Colts, Trent Richardson trade)
27 ( 27 ) New Orleans Saints
28 ( 28 ) Carolina Panthers
29 ( 29 ) New England Patriots
30 ( 30 ) San Francisco 49ers
31 ( 31 ) Denver Broncos
32 ( 32 ) Seattle Seahawks

Round Two

1 ( 33 ) Houston Texans
2 ( 34 ) Washington Redskins
3 ( 35 ) Cleveland Browns
4 ( 36 ) Oakland Raiders
5 ( 37 ) Atlanta Falcons
6 ( 38 ) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 ( 39 ) Jacksonville Jaguars
8 ( 40 ) Minnesota Vikings
9 ( 41 ) Buffalo Bills
10 ( 42 ) Tennessee Titans
11 ( 43 ) New York Giants
12 ( 44 ) St. Louis Rams
13 ( 45 ) Detroit Lions
14 ( 46 ) Pittsburgh Steelers
15 ( 47 ) Dallas Cowboys *
16 ( 48 ) Baltimore Ravens *
17 ( 49 ) New York Jets
18 ( 50 ) Miami Dolphins
19 ( 51 ) Chicago Bears
20 ( 52 ) Arizona Cardinals
21 ( 53 ) Green Bay Packers
22 ( 54 ) Philadelphia Eagles
23 ( 55 ) Cincinnati Bengals
24 ( 56 ) San Francisco 49ers (from Kansas City Chiefs, Alex Smith trade)
25 ( 57 ) San Diego Chargers
26 ( 58 ) New Orleans Saints
27 ( 59 ) Indianapolis Colts
28 ( 60 ) Carolina Panthers
29 ( 61 ) San Francisco 49ers
30 ( 62 ) New England Patriots
31 ( 63 ) Denver Broncos
32 ( 64 ) Seattle Seahawks

Round Three

1 ( 65 ) Houston Texans
2 ( 66 ) Washington Redskins
3 ( 67 ) Oakland Raiders
4 ( 68 ) Atlanta Falcons
5 ( 69 ) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
6 ( 70 ) Jacksonville Jaguars
7 ( 71 ) Cleveland Browns
8 ( 72 ) Minnesota Vikings
9 ( 73 ) Buffalo Bills
10 ( 74 ) New York Giants
11 ( 75 ) St. Louis Rams
12 ( 76 ) Detroit Lions
13 ( 77 ) San Francisco 49ers (from Tennessee Titans, 2013 draft trade, #34, Justin Hunter)
14 ( 78 ) Dallas Cowboys *
15 ( 79 ) Baltimore Ravens *
16 ( 80 ) New York Jets
17 ( 81 ) Miami Dolphins
18 ( 82 ) Chicago Bears
19 ( 83 ) Cleveland Browns (from Pittsburgh Steelers, 2013 draft trade, #111, Shamarko Thomas)
20 ( 84 ) Arizona Cardinals
21 ( 85 ) Green Bay Packers
22 ( 86 ) Philadelphia Eagles
23 ( 87 ) Kansas City Chiefs
24 ( 88 ) Cincinnati Bengals
25 ( 89 ) San Diego Chargers
26 ( 90 ) Indianapolis Colts
27 ( 91 ) New Orleans Saints
28 ( 92 ) Carolina Panthers
29 ( 93 ) New England Patriots
30 ( 94 ) San Francisco 49ers
31 ( 95 ) Denver Broncos
32 ( 96 ) Minnesota Vikings (from Seattle Seahawks, Percy Harvin trade)
33 ( 97 ) Pittsburgh Steelers (compensatory, Mike Wallace)
34 ( 98 ) Green Bay Packers (compensatory, Greg Jennings)

Round Four

1 ( 99 ) Houston Texans
2 ( 100 ) Washington Redskins
3 ( 101 ) Atlanta Falcons
4 ( 102 ) New York Jets (from Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Darrelle Revis trade)(conditional, will escalate to a third-round selection if Revis is on Tampa Bay's roster on the third day of the 2014 league year [March 14])
5 ( 103 ) Jacksonville Jaguars
6 ( 104 ) Cleveland Browns
7 ( 105 ) Oakland Raiders
8 ( 106 ) Minnesota Vikings
9 ( 107 ) Buffalo Bills
10 ( 108 ) St. Louis Rams
11 ( 109 ) Detroit Lions
12 ( 110 ) Tennessee Titans
13 ( 111 ) New York Giants
14 ( 112 ) Jacksonville Jaguars * (from Baltimore Ravens, Eugene Monroe trade)
15 ( 113 ) New York Jets
16 ( 114 ) Miami Dolphins
17 ( 115 ) Chicago Bears
18 ( 116 ) Pittsburgh Steelers
19 ( 117 ) Dallas Cowboys *
20 ( 118 ) Arizona Cardinals
21 ( 119 ) Green Bay Packers
22 ( 120 ) Philadelphia Eagles
23 ( 121 ) Kansas City Chiefs
24 ( 122 ) Cincinnati Bengals
25 ( 123 ) San Diego Chargers
26 ( 124 ) New Orleans Saints
27 ( 125 ) Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis Colts, 2013 draft trade, #139, Montori Hughes)
28 ( 126 ) Carolina Panthers
29 ( 127 ) San Francisco 49ers
30 ( 128 ) New England Patriots
31 ( 129 ) Denver Broncos
32 ( 130 ) Seattle Seahawks
33 ( 131 ) San Francisco 49ers (compensatory, Dashon Goldson)
34 ( 132 ) Baltimore Ravens (compensatory, Paul Kruger)
35 ( 133 ) Detroit Lions (compensatory, Gosder Cherilus)
36 ( 134 ) Baltimore Ravens (compensatory, Dannell Ellerbe)

Round Five

1 ( 135 ) Houston Texans
2 ( 136 ) Washington Redskins
3 ( 137 ) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 ( 138 ) Jacksonville Jaguars
5 ( 139 ) Cleveland Browns
6 ( 140 ) Seattle Seahawks (from Oakland Raiders, Matt Flynn trade)
7 ( 141 ) Atlanta Falcons
8 ( 142 ) Minnesota Vikings
9 ( 143 ) Buffalo Bills
10 ( 144 ) Jacksonville Jaguars (from Detroit Lions, Mike Thomas trade)
11 ( 145 ) Tennessee Titans
12 ( 146 ) New York Giants
13 ( 147 ) St. Louis Rams
14 ( 148 ) New York Jets
15 ( 149 ) Miami Dolphins
16 ( 150 ) Chicago Bears
17 ( 151 ) Pittsburgh Steelers
18 ( 152 ) Dallas Cowboys *
19 ( 153 ) Jacksonville Jaguars * (from Baltimore Ravens, Eugene Monroe trade)
20 ( 154 ) Arizona Cardinals
21 ( 155 ) Green Bay Packers
22 ( 156 ) Philadelphia Eagles
23 ( 157 ) Kansas City Chiefs
24 ( 158 ) Cincinnati Bengals
25 ( 159 ) San Diego Chargers
26 ( 160 ) Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis Colts, 2013 draft trade, #139, Montori Hughes)
27 ( 161 ) New Orleans Saints
28 ( 162 ) Carolina Panthers
29 ( 163 ) Philadelphia Eagles (from New England Patriots, Isaac Sopoaga trade)
30 ( 164 ) San Francisco 49ers
31 ( 165 ) Denver Broncos
32 ( 166 ) Seattle Seahawks
33 ( 167 ) Houston Texans (compensatory, Connor Barwin)
34 ( 168 ) New York Jets (compensatory, LaRon Landry)
35 ( 169 ) Baltimore Ravens (compensatory, Cary Williams)
36 ( 170 ) Atlanta Falcons (compensatory, Brent Grimes)
37 ( 171 ) Pittsburgh Steelers (compensatory, Keenan Lewis
38 ( 172 ) New York Giants (compensatory, Martellus Bennett)
39 ( 173 ) Baltimore Ravens (compensatory, Ed Reed)
40 ( 174 ) Houston Texans (compensatory, Glover Quinn)

Round Six

1 ( 175 ) Houston Texans
2 ( 176 ) Washington Redskins
3 ( 177 ) Jacksonville Jaguars
4 ( 178 ) Cleveland Browns
5 ( 179 ) Oakland Raiders
6 ( 180 ) Atlanta Falcons
7 ( 181 ) Chicago Bears (from Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Gabe Carimi trade)
8 ( 182 ) Minnesota Vikings
9 ( 183 ) Buffalo Bills
10 ( 184 ) Tennessee Titans
11 ( 185 ) New York Giants
12 ( 186 ) St. Louis Rams
13 ( 187 ) Detroit Lions
14 ( 188 ) Miami Dolphins
15 ( 189 ) Chicago Bears
16 ( 190 ) Pittsburgh Steelers
17 ( 191 ) Kansas City Chiefs * (from Dallas Cowboys, Edgar Jones trade)
18 ( 192 ) Baltimore Ravens *
19 ( 193 ) New York Jets
20 ( 194 ) Arizona Cardinals
21 ( 195 ) Green Bay Packers
22 ( 196 ) New England Patriots (from Philadelphia Eagles, Isaac Sopoaga trade)
23 ( 197 ) Kansas City Chiefs
24 ( 198 ) Cincinnati Bengals
25 ( 199 ) San Diego Chargers
26 ( 200 ) New Orleans Saints
27 ( 201 ) Indianapolis Colts
28 ( 202 ) Carolina Panthers
29 ( 203 ) San Francisco 49ers
30 ( 204 ) New England Patriots
31 ( 205 ) Denver Broncos
32 ( 206 ) Seattle Seahawks
33 ( 207 ) New York Jets (compensatory, Mike DeVito)
34 ( 208 ) Green Bay Packers (compensatory, Erik Walden)
35 ( 209 ) New York Jets (compensatory, Dustin Keller)
36 ( 210 ) New England Patriots (compensatory, Patrick Chung)
37 ( 211 ) Cincinnati Bengals (compensatory, Manny Lawson)
38 ( 212 ) St. Louis Rams (compensatory, Brandon Gibson)
39 ( 213 ) New York Jets (compensatory, Shonn Greene)

Round Seven

1 ( 214 ) Houston Texans
2 ( 215 ) Washington Redskins
3 ( 216 ) Cleveland Browns
4 ( 217 ) Oakland Raiders
5 ( 218 ) Atlanta Falcons
6 ( 219 ) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 ( 220 ) Jacksonville Jaguars
8 ( 221 ) Minnesota Vikings
9 ( 222 ) Buffalo Bills
10 ( 223 ) Carolina Panthers (from New York Giants, Jon Beason trade)
11 ( 224 ) St. Louis Rams
12 ( 225 ) Detroit Lions
13 ( 226 ) Tennessee Titans
14 ( 227 ) Dallas Cowboys (from Chicago Bears, Dante Rosario trade)
15 ( 228 ) Pittsburgh Steelers
16 ( 229 ) Dallas Cowboys *
17 ( 230 ) Indianapolis Colts* (from Baltimore Ravens, A.Q. Shipley trade)
18 ( 231 ) New York Jets
19 ( 232 ) Miami Dolphins
20 ( 233 ) Oakland Raiders (from Arizona Cardinals, Carson Palmer trade)
21 ( 234 ) Green Bay Packers
22 ( 235 ) New England Patriots (from Philadelphia Eagles, Isaac Sopoaga trade)
23 ( 236 ) Dallas Cowboys (from Kansas City Chiefs, Edgar Jones trade)
24 ( 237 ) Cincinnati Bengals
25 ( 238 ) San Diego Chargers
26 ( 239 ) San Francisco 49ers (from Indianapolis Colts, Cam Johnson trade)
27 ( 240 ) San Francisco 49ers (from New Orleans Saints, Parys Haralson trade)
28 ( 241 ) San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina Panthers, Colin Jones trade)
29 ( 242 ) New England Patriots
30 ( 243 ) San Francisco 49ers
31 ( 244 ) Denver Broncos
32 ( 245 ) Seattle Seahawks
33 ( 246 ) St. Louis Rams (compensatory, Bradley Fletcher)
34 ( 247 ) Dallas Cowboys (compensatory, Mike Jenkins)
35 ( 248 ) Cincinnati Bengals (compensatory, Pat Sims)
36 ( 249 ) St. Louis Rams (compensatory, Craig Dahl)
37 ( 250 ) St. Louis Rams (compensatory, Rob Turner)
38 ( 251 ) Dallas Cowboys (compensatory, Victor Butler)
39 ( 252 ) Cincinnati Bengals (compensatory, Bruce Gradkowski)
40 ( 253 ) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (compensatory, Geno Hayes)
41 ( 254 ) Atlanta Falcons (compensatory, Will Svitek)
42 ( 255 ) Atlanta Falcons (compensatory, Christopher Owens)
43 ( 256 ) San Diego Chargers (compensatory, Shaun Phillips)

Undetermined
St. Louis Rams (from Indianapolis Colts, Josh Gordy trade)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from Philadelphia Eagles, Arrelious Benn trade)


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is Woz's projection that he'll keep updating with each passing week.

Woz wrote:
Code:
#    TEAM     PCT      SOS
 1    KAN    0.167    0.505
 2    JAC    0.167    0.552
 3    OAK    0.250    0.464
 4    PHI    0.250    0.510
 5    CAR    0.250    0.516
 6    SDG    0.333    0.464
 7    CLE    0.333    0.516
 8    TEN    0.333    0.536
 9    ARI    0.333    0.552
10    DET    0.333    0.563
11    BUF    0.417    0.490
12    NOR    0.417    0.503
13    MIA    0.417    0.510
14    NYJ    0.417    0.516
15    STL    0.458    0.526
16    TAM    0.500    0.466
17    WAS    0.500    0.497 -> traded to STL
18    DAL    0.500    0.516
19    MIN    0.500    0.531
20    CIN    0.583    0.453
---------------------------
21    PIT    0.583    0.464
22    SEA    0.583    0.495
23    NYG    0.583    0.513
24    IND    0.667    0.469
25    CHI    0.667    0.495
26    GRB    0.667    0.510
27    SFO    0.708    0.495
28    DEN    0.750    0.469
29    BAL    0.750    0.500
30    NWE    0.750    0.510
31    ATL    0.917    0.396
32    HOU    0.917    0.500


If SOS remains the same 'til the end of the season (just saying), then as long as Oakland wins and Jacksonville wins, we can stand to have another victory and keep the #1 overall pick.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright as I understand it.. Broncos could finish anywhere between the #1 seed and #3 seed.

Currently it's:

Houston (12-3)
Denver (12-3)
NE (11-4)

In a case of tied records... NE holds a tie break over both Houston and Denver. Houston holds the tie break over Denver.

Houston (@ Indy) and NE (vs Miami) play early, Denver plays us late so they will know the outcome if they want to. Here's how those early games impact things.

If Houston wins:

Denver win gives them the #2 seed
Denver loss and NE loss gives them the #2 seed
Denver loss and NE win gives Denver the #3 seed and no bye week!

If NE wins:

Denver must win to get a bye week
Denver win and Houston loss give Denver #1 seed and home field advantage
Denver win and Houston win gives Denver #2 seed

(yes I realize some info is redundant in both sections but wanted to spell it out clearly for both early games)

The one lone situation that would leave Denver's late game against us as irrelevant is if NE loses and Houston wins. Any other scenario and Denver has reason to win.

Some one double check me but pretty sure that's all correct.

So this relates to the Chiefs obviously because a hungry Manning trying to win should lock us up for the #1 draft pick.. but a mail it in week 17 by Denver would makes things much more dangerous for us (and by dangerous I mean we steal a useless win in week 17 for nothing).

In addition to the above Jacksonville plays Tennessee in an early game. A winnable game for them I'd think. Should they win early our game would then have no meaning beyond pride and we could root for a win to ruin some Denver magic!

So.. come Sunday early we are NE and Jacksonville fans. Those two are the biggest keys to the outcome.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Titans have been playing much much worse than the Jags of late. There's a decent shot the Jags win. I really hope so, because I so badly want to root for a win for us.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rearviewmirror wrote:
The Titans have been playing much much worse than the Jags of late. There's a decent shot the Jags win. I really hope so, because I so badly want to root for a win for us.


If Jax wins and we lose, we get the first pick in EVERY round. I would be happy with that. A win would be nice though. Just don't see it happening with this pathetic excuse of a passing offense we have.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The New England/Miami game was pushed back to the 4:25 ET slot, so Denver will have something to play for against us no matter what. Would really like to see Jacksonville win so I could root for us to ruin the Donkeys' chance at a bye.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kylecumberland wrote:
Rearviewmirror wrote:
The Titans have been playing much much worse than the Jags of late. There's a decent shot the Jags win. I really hope so, because I so badly want to root for a win for us.


If Jax wins and we lose, we get the first pick in EVERY round. I would be happy with that. A win would be nice though. Just don't see it happening with this pathetic excuse of a passing offense we have.


couldn't care less about the 1st pick of all the even numbered rounds.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated afterv the end of the regular season. If you have any info on additional trades involving picks please let me know.

The Chiefs should get ONE third round and ONE seventh round compensatory selection (Brandon Carr and Barry Richardson respectively).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC_Guy wrote:
Updated afterv the end of the regular season. If you have any info on additional trades involving picks please let me know.

The Chiefs should get ONE third round and ONE seventh round compensatory selection (Brandon Carr and Barry Richardson respectively).


Barry Richardson! Lol, I forgot about that poor soul.

What about Kyle Orton? Do we not get a comp pick for him too?
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Mikek163 wrote:
KC_Guy wrote:
Updated afterv the end of the regular season. If you have any info on additional trades involving picks please let me know.

The Chiefs should get ONE third round and ONE seventh round compensatory selection (Brandon Carr and Barry Richardson respectively).


Barry Richardson! Lol, I forgot about that poor soul.

What about Kyle Orton? Do we not get a comp pick for him too?

Well his is probably offset by adding Quinn or some other UFA like Hillis or Winston. The whole comp pick thing confuses me, but I know your losses are somehow offset by your gains, so we probably lost one or got a worse one for Barry due to the guys we signed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a little explanation how the comp draft pick mechanism works. AdamJT13 posted projections regularly until a year ago.We'll see if he returns to duty this year.

As for the Chiefs:

They lost four qualifying players (Carr, McClain, Orton, Richardson) and signed two (Quinn, Hillis). As Quinn and Hillis received bigger contracts than Richardson they should cancel out McClain and Orton from the equation - thus leaving Carr and Richardson to be considered. Whether or not Richardson will qualify is dependent on the playing time incentives reportedly included in his contract.As a rule of thumb no player with a salary lower than 1 M$ will qualify (according to my information Richardson had a 850 k$ base pay).
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so by playing Quinn instead of Stanzi we screwed ourselves out of a pick? Is that correct?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rearviewmirror wrote:
so by playing Quinn instead of Stanzi we screwed ourselves out of a pick? Is that correct?


Nope. By signing him.
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