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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject: Kansas City Chiefs 2013 Skeleton Depth Chart Reply with quote

Frozen as of 7 September 2013.

Color codes:

black: 2012 active roster/injured reserve player
blue: 2012 Practice Squad player
orange: draft selection
red: acquired veteran
green: UDFA pickup
black italics: recent waiver claims - we'll see how they fit into the picture

Offense

RT - Fisher, Schwartz
RG - Asamoah
OC - Hudson, Kush
LG - Allen
LT - Albert, Stephenson

QB - A. Smith, Daniel, Bray

RB - Charles, Davis, Gray
FB - Sherman

WR - Bowe, Jenkins, Hall
Slot - McCluster
WR - Avery, Hemingway
TE - Fasano, Kelce, McGrath

Defense

DE - DeVito, Bailey, Catapano
NT - Poe, Howard
DE - T. Jackson, Toribio

WOLB - Hali, Moses, Martin
WILB - D. Johnson, J.M. Johnson
SILB - Jordan, N. Johnson
SOLB - Houston, Zombo

CB - S. Smith, Parker
NB - Flowers
CB - Flowers, Robinson, Cooper

FS - Lewis, Abdullah
SS - Berry, Demps, McDougald

Specialists

K - Succop
P - Colquitt
LS - Gafford
KR - Demps, Davis
PR - McCluster


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Edgar Jones is a UFA this offseason. According to my sources, both Jones and Brandon Siler are signed to 1 year, $700,000 contracts for 2012.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is Albert not starting? Sorry, been out of the loop lately. Was listening to game yesterday and I swear they said he came in as an extra blocker on the first touchdown. If he can play, why isn't he starting?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhillyChief wrote:
Why is Albert not starting? Sorry, been out of the loop lately. Was listening to game yesterday and I swear they said he came in as an extra blocker on the first touchdown. If he can play, why isn't he starting?


This is a projection of the 2013 roster/depth chart. Albert will be a free agent - thus, as long as he has not been re-signed, hewon't be on the roster/depth chart at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some ideas about how to proceed into 2013:

Offense:

OL: re-sign Albert and Lilja and the unit should be good to go. Lilja may be replacable by another veteran though.

QB: re-sign Quinn, draft a potential long-term starter, release Cassel for the better of the team and the player, and go into camp with four guys. Go from there.

RB: not sure if Hillis met expectations. I'm disappointed. Nevertheless, sign a veteran tank to spell Charles. Draughn and Gray are just numbers, although I like Draughn's way to return kickoffs - if he hangs onto the ball.

FB: Does it even matter? I liked Mike Cox.

TE: Re-sign Maneri, I like him, especially as a blocker. Add some former basketball player through the draft or as an UDFA.

WR: Baldwin seems to come along. Not sure what's wrong with Breaston. McCluster is a niche player. The others are just numbers right now. Some REAL threat is desperately needed. Re-sign Bowe (yes I said it) or bring in someone like him (without the drops - yep, said that too). If you rely on Baldwin as a big body guy add some speed - but not smaller than 6'0" please - the Chiefs have enough McClusters and Wylies.

Defense to follow later.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Defense:

DL: This highly depends on what system the Chiefs will use. The couple of Jackson & Poe just rocks, however, they'll need another DE. Dorsey isn't it. He should be gone. Bailey (huge disappointment so far)? Pitoitua? Smith? Stop gaps. I'd appreciate a relentless pass rusher just to shake up the system.

LB: Disappointed with Hali this year. Houston & Johnson are set. ILB obviously a huge gap right now - wouldn't mind bringing in a vet (or re-sign Siler if he proves himself for the rest of the season) and develop another guy there. Back-up OLB is a routine thing.

CB: They need a bigger guy. 6'0", 190 lbs minimum. Someone going up against the 6'3"+ WR and TE. Arenas is doing well, but is physically overmatched by too many opponents. Depth? What depth? Bring in 10 guys to OTA/camp and sift through them.

S: I don't like Lewis as a starter. Too many injuries, and not playing any better than Jarred Page did. They need a new starter here - or AT MINIMUM - a back-up with potential starter qualities. Depth is a mess unless some of the 2012 rookies show something. I think Hartman wasn't too shabby against CAR.

Special Teams:

Colquitt - he's one of the better P in the league - but over the past two years he had some REALLY bad ones. Depends on how much he asks for - I probably wouldn't break the bank for him. But with the cap the Chiefs have they probably should play it safe here.
Gafford - any LS is replacable. He's probably not he best, but he's well acquainted with Colquitt and Succop. So let's keep him at vet's minimum.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC_Guy wrote:

RB: not sure if Hillis met expectations. I'm disappointed. Nevertheless, sign a veteran tank to spell Charles. Draughn and Gray are just numbers, although I like Draughn's way to return kickoffs - if he hangs onto the ball.

FB: Does it even matter? I liked Mike Cox.

TE: Re-sign Maneri, I like him, especially as a blocker. Add some former basketball player through the draft or as an UDFA.

WR: Baldwin seems to come along. Not sure what's wrong with Breaston. McCluster is a niche player. The others are just numbers right now. Some REAL threat is desperately needed. Re-sign Bowe (yes I said it) or bring in someone like him (without the drops - yep, said that too). If you rely on Baldwin as a big body guy add some speed - but not smaller than 6'0" please - the Chiefs have enough McClusters and Wylies.


In regards to the above, I definitely am not worried about re-signing Hillis. I'd much rather draft a guy in the late rounds who can be a FB/Goal line type. I don't think Gray is just a number. He's got great potential, he just needs to learn the game some. He's also a good KO returner, at least in college he was. Health is the only real concern with him. Draughn camp get a camp invite, but ideally he's off the team next year.

We definitely need to look at TE IMO. I like Boss, but dude has had a million concussions. I don't know that I want to see him on the field again, for his own sake. I'd love to land someone who is well rounded in the mid rounds to be our #1. Moeaki has a good injury history, and his blocking has been downright putrid at times this year.

At WR, I really want us to add a burner type. That would be irrelevant currently, but ideally we have a QB like Geno and an OC that isn't afraid to take it deep. This is with or without Bowe. We can get someone like this in the later rounds IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigschmadt00 wrote:
I don't think Gray is just a number. He's got great potential, he just needs to learn the game some. He's also a good KO returner, at least in college he was. Health is the only real concern with him.


Haven't seen anything from Gray by now. Not as a RB, not as a return guy. That's why I called him a number. I have no issues to bring anyone (well, there may be two or three guys I'd rather not want to see again) on the current roster back to camp - but I don't expect anyone hardly playing to explode onto the scene as a big time contributor. Same can be said about Draughn (however, he got a bit more exposure on the field).
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Considering our offense is pretty self explanatory this off season I will only touch the defense for now.

DE :

Randy Starks = Guy can play both DE and NT. Hes relatively young at 30 but how much is he worth?

Terrence Knighton = Can we play DE? Will we sign him and have Poe play DE with him at NT?

Israel Idonije = Will he want to leave the Bears?

ILB :

Rey Maualuga = Switch to a 3-4? Can he be a thumper? How much?

Daryl Smith = Can he switch to a 3-4 and play ILB? One of the best coverage LBs in the game which will provide some versatility with blitzes etc.

CB :

Quentin Jammer = How much? Will he leave?

Brent Grimes = Worth the risk?

Aqib Talib = Character?

Nnamdi + Drc = Will they be let go as speculated? How much are they worth now with disappointing seasons?

Derek Cox = Personally one of my favorite FA's this year.

S :

Jarius Byrd = How much? Will Buffalo try and re sign him?

DaShon Goldson = System guy? Can he play on another defense and be successful?
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I hate to say it, but the smart move might be to take a QB in the 2nd round. With this being such a weak QB class, the top of the 2nd round should offer very good value at QB. Bring Quinn back as well. Not saying Quinn is a long term answer, but I think he is very underrated on this board, and around the league (with the exception of mike martz) In cleveland they gave up on him after like 12 games in his rookie season, with no talent around him. You can't give up on a rookie that fast, they take time to develop. Then in KC this was the first game that he had adequate time to actually practice with the first string offense. If he struggles the rest of the season I will stand corrected, but I think the Carolina game was the first game he had his timing and chemistry down with our starters.

As far as the first round pick goes I am starting to lean towards either Star or Te'o. I know we have taken way to many D linemen in recent years. But you can't be scared to fail, you have to get the lines right. With the emergence of Tyson Jackson, and Dontari Poe continuing to impress as a rookie if you put a guy like Star on the line the defense could be dominant. If we go that route we can grab a veteran ILB to fill the void Belcher left.

If we go with Te'o we will have possibly the best LB core in the league. and most importantly all 4 of our LB will be every down players, allowing us to stay in our base defense. I think this would make a huge difference. He would be such an upgrade in coverage. The middle of the field has been where we are most vulnerable. having an ILB that is good in coverage and plays every down in so important with the way tight ends are being used now. If we go this route we could grab a vet like Randy Starks to play DE as mentioned above.
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^Quinn is getting way overrated after just one good game. This one game is pretty much the only positive thing we have seen from Quinn. Cassel had a pro bowl season with us and we know that he isn't the answer at QB. We absolutely need to go QB in the 1st round.
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simonwayne wrote:
^Quinn is getting way overrated after just one good game. This one game is pretty much the only positive thing we have seen from Quinn. Cassel had a pro bowl season with us and we know that he isn't the answer at QB. We absolutely need to go QB in the 1st round.


Completely agree. I see Geno as difference maker in the NFL, he has good arm, great accuracy, great athleticism and great decision making. I know the knock about him throwing passes with low depth of target but look at RG3 in the NFL. You don't have to throw deep every pass. However you do need to have the ability to throw it deep and Smith has shown the ability to do that.

He's gonna be a stud and we can't afford to take a chance on a guy in the second round.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC_Guy wrote:
Some ideas about how to proceed into 2013:

Offense:

OL: re-sign Albert and Lilja and the unit should be good to go. Lilja may be replacable by another veteran though.

QB: re-sign Quinn, draft a potential long-term starter, release Cassel for the better of the team and the player, and go into camp with four guys. Go from there.

RB: not sure if Hillis met expectations. I'm disappointed. Nevertheless, sign a veteran tank to spell Charles. Draughn and Gray are just numbers, although I like Draughn's way to return kickoffs - if he hangs onto the ball.

FB: Does it even matter? I liked Mike Cox.

TE: Re-sign Maneri, I like him, especially as a blocker. Add some former basketball player through the draft or as an UDFA.

WR: Baldwin seems to come along. Not sure what's wrong with Breaston. McCluster is a niche player. The others are just numbers right now. Some REAL threat is desperately needed. Re-sign Bowe (yes I said it) or bring in someone like him (without the drops - yep, said that too). If you rely on Baldwin as a big body guy add some speed - but not smaller than 6'0" please - the Chiefs have enough McClusters and Wylies.

Defense to follow later.


So basically that narrows it down to 2 or 3 other guys in the league...
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5 is way too much with the solid qb play we've had this year Rage. Lets see him get to about 4 and then we'll talk. Wink
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Bumping this one up as we may see some development over the next few days
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