Looking at the Numbers :Defense

Saint-Anger_13 · Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 191 Location: Fairfax, IA

So after reading your guys think of the team this year. Im starting to look at the entire team in three parts. I look at money, contract, and of course performance. So before I start just take It easy on me lol Very Happy

Ok so first looking at the numbers let´s get to it shall we?

So the New Orleans Saints Defense is ranked 32nd allowing 327 total points

Now this worst defense is worth $114,212,221 in cap over the next 5 years

5 players out of that number take $57,621,889 of that original number

those six players are in order of largest to smallest

Smith $28,483,332 2 Years Left

Harper $15,000,000 2 Years Left

Jenkins $3,807,000 2 Years Left

Vilma $9,300,000 1 Year Left

Herring $5,000,000 1 year Left

Now the recent free agent signings this year will make up
$70,240,000 over the next 5 years

listing highest paid to smallest

Bunkley $20,900,000

Lofton $31,800,000

Hawthorne $17,275,000

Our recent two Rookie starters make

$4,320,000 Combined

Hicks $2,115,000
White $2,205,000

Current Contracts that are up at the end of the season are

Ellis
Shanle
Johnson
Bush
Mcbride
Mack
Humber
Daniels
Hixon

However these players are current RFAs

Hixon
Daniels
Bush
Galette

Now as a reminder under the 2011 CBA the RFA ranking for player pay compensation.

It looks like this

2.742 Million and over 1st round
1.927 2nd round
1.26 Original draft Status

currently the RFAs look like this

Hixon- ODS
Bush- ODS
Galette-ODS
Daniels-ODS

So looking at things

roughly 39.2% of the money of defense is going to players not playing up to their contracts.

Bunkley is making 94.6% more money than Hicks, Although Hicks is playing better than him.

Smith makes 623.4% more than Jordan

I have all a list of all players contracts and current statuses, If you have a question about a player not listed, and would like to know more, please let me know.

Otherwise look at the numbers, and see what really needs to be done with the defense.

Raves · Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 16852

Smith will be gone, Vilma will be restructured or gone, Jenkins is making minimal money as it's about 1.75 mil per year, Harper is making 7.5 mil per year, and Herring might be gone as well.

So if you take Smith 10 million, Vilma 9 million, Herring 5 million, and maybe even Harper 7.5 million, that's 31.5 million left to be used next year... for a team that is supposed to be 10 million over, that puts us 21.5 million under...
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2011 Stats:
Malcolm Jenkins - 78 Tackles, 1 Sack, 1 FF, 9 PD, 1 FRTD
Jimmy Graham - 99 catches, 1310 yards, 11 TD

Jlowe22 · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 632 Location: South Mississippi

It needs to be gutted, Harper, Smith, Ellis, Vilma, and probably Greer are never getting any better. Jenkins has potential to get better, but his time is running out and he really needs to stand out if he wants to keep his job. Even without looking at the numbers, certain players on this defense have been so bad for so long, they absolutely need to go.

Other players like Shanle, who first comes to mind, need to go regardless. I don't care if Shanle is using negative cap space, he needs to go. I'm really lazy when looking at cap space and salary numbers, but bad players with little/no potential to get any better should go regardless. Players past their prime with high contracts as well younger ones with play too horrendous to be excused. This goes for offense as well, I do not approve of this 5 back rotation, especially when most the carries are given to the least productive of them all. IMO, the decision to make Ingram the primary back this year has been the foundation of the offensive problems we've been having. No excuse for Ingram to be stealing carries from Ivory or Thomas. I really want Ingram to get better, but these other backs are too good to be the patient with him.

whodatworm23 · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 2550 Location: Nawlins

Raves · Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 16852

Vilma-I think the only reason to approach about a restructure is the fact that we have nothing better at WLB and a trio of Vilma/Lofton/Hawthorne isn't too bad.

Harper-I think we try to move him and then use the money we saved from him on a SS like Kenny Phillips that fits Spags' scheme better.

Ellis-Unfortunately I agree, all the potential, just never put it together.

Greer-I was actually thinking this and in a GM Mock draft my first pick was a CB with that thought process. Maybe putting him in at Nickel as I couldn't move him yet.
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2011 Stats:
Malcolm Jenkins - 78 Tackles, 1 Sack, 1 FF, 9 PD, 1 FRTD
Jimmy Graham - 99 catches, 1310 yards, 11 TD

whodatworm23 · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 2550 Location: Nawlins

saintsfan · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:40 am Post subject:

Does anybody wish we had kept TP over Greer?
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whodatworm23 · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 2550 Location: Nawlins

saintsfan · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject:

whodatworm23 · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 2550 Location: Nawlins

Raves · Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 16852

Porter doesn't fit the scheme either, he's a finesse corner, not a physical man corner.
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2011 Stats:
Malcolm Jenkins - 78 Tackles, 1 Sack, 1 FF, 9 PD, 1 FRTD
Jimmy Graham - 99 catches, 1310 yards, 11 TD

whodatworm23 · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 2550 Location: Nawlins