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bruceb


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bruceb wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
bungleodeon wrote:
Estonianzulu wrote:
Shurmur was not brought in because he was an offensive mastermind. He was brought in because of the work he helped do with Donovan McNabb and Sam Bradford to try and develop a Quarterback.

So far his success is so-so in that regard


So you don't think his last name had anything to do with it? I have to disagree.

With most front office decisions, we'll never know the whole story, but I've read some reports that said it was Heckert that really pushed for Shurmur, not Holmgren. Heckert was the one who worked with him in Philly.

Yeah, his uncle might have worked with Holmy, and yeah, Heckert liked him in Philly, but let's not forget the real reason Shurmur was hired.




LaMonte


This is one reason the FO is being dismantled. Wonder how much, in addition to his $8mil from Randy, Holmgren got from the BobFather for all his client signings?


Banner signed Heckert and Shurmur's paychecks in Philadelphia (figuratively. perhaps maybe even literally)

you have no clue what you're talking about


Huh? Bereft of logic.


bruce.. Reid, Heckert, and Shurmur all worked in Philly together...Banner "signed" their checks...does that clear it up for you?


No.


Ok...hmmm...did Banner "dismantle" Reid, Heckert, Childress, and Shurmur when they all worked in Philly together back in 2001?


No. He learned from the experience.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceb wrote:
Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bruceb wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
bungleodeon wrote:
Estonianzulu wrote:
Shurmur was not brought in because he was an offensive mastermind. He was brought in because of the work he helped do with Donovan McNabb and Sam Bradford to try and develop a Quarterback.

So far his success is so-so in that regard


So you don't think his last name had anything to do with it? I have to disagree.

With most front office decisions, we'll never know the whole story, but I've read some reports that said it was Heckert that really pushed for Shurmur, not Holmgren. Heckert was the one who worked with him in Philly.

Yeah, his uncle might have worked with Holmy, and yeah, Heckert liked him in Philly, but let's not forget the real reason Shurmur was hired.




LaMonte


This is one reason the FO is being dismantled. Wonder how much, in addition to his $8mil from Randy, Holmgren got from the BobFather for all his client signings?


Banner signed Heckert and Shurmur's paychecks in Philadelphia (figuratively. perhaps maybe even literally)

you have no clue what you're talking about


Huh? Bereft of logic.


bruce.. Reid, Heckert, and Shurmur all worked in Philly together...Banner "signed" their checks...does that clear it up for you?


No.


Ok...hmmm...did Banner "dismantle" Reid, Heckert, Childress, and Shurmur when they all worked in Philly together back in 2001?


No. He learned from the experience.



The experience of the Eagles being a damned good organization for about 8 years?

Everyone leaves but Reid and now they suck [inappropriate/removed].

Just sayen
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bruceb wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
bungleodeon wrote:
Estonianzulu wrote:
Shurmur was not brought in because he was an offensive mastermind. He was brought in because of the work he helped do with Donovan McNabb and Sam Bradford to try and develop a Quarterback.

So far his success is so-so in that regard


So you don't think his last name had anything to do with it? I have to disagree.

With most front office decisions, we'll never know the whole story, but I've read some reports that said it was Heckert that really pushed for Shurmur, not Holmgren. Heckert was the one who worked with him in Philly.

Yeah, his uncle might have worked with Holmy, and yeah, Heckert liked him in Philly, but let's not forget the real reason Shurmur was hired.




LaMonte


This is one reason the FO is being dismantled. Wonder how much, in addition to his $8mil from Randy, Holmgren got from the BobFather for all his client signings?


Banner signed Heckert and Shurmur's paychecks in Philadelphia (figuratively. perhaps maybe even literally)

you have no clue what you're talking about


Huh? Bereft of logic.


bruce.. Reid, Heckert, and Shurmur all worked in Philly together...Banner "signed" their checks...does that clear it up for you?


No.


Ok...hmmm...did Banner "dismantle" Reid, Heckert, Childress, and Shurmur when they all worked in Philly together back in 2001?


No. He learned from the experience.



The experience of the Eagles being a damned good organization for about 8 years?

Everyone leaves but Reid and now they suck [inappropriate/removed].

Just sayen


But nug, aint winning bad when you have some FO people that have the same agent?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bruceb wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
bungleodeon wrote:
Estonianzulu wrote:
Shurmur was not brought in because he was an offensive mastermind. He was brought in because of the work he helped do with Donovan McNabb and Sam Bradford to try and develop a Quarterback.

So far his success is so-so in that regard


So you don't think his last name had anything to do with it? I have to disagree.

With most front office decisions, we'll never know the whole story, but I've read some reports that said it was Heckert that really pushed for Shurmur, not Holmgren. Heckert was the one who worked with him in Philly.

Yeah, his uncle might have worked with Holmy, and yeah, Heckert liked him in Philly, but let's not forget the real reason Shurmur was hired.




LaMonte


This is one reason the FO is being dismantled. Wonder how much, in addition to his $8mil from Randy, Holmgren got from the BobFather for all his client signings?


Banner signed Heckert and Shurmur's paychecks in Philadelphia (figuratively. perhaps maybe even literally)

you have no clue what you're talking about


Huh? Bereft of logic.


bruce.. Reid, Heckert, and Shurmur all worked in Philly together...Banner "signed" their checks...does that clear it up for you?


No.


Ok...hmmm...did Banner "dismantle" Reid, Heckert, Childress, and Shurmur when they all worked in Philly together back in 2001?


No. He learned from the experience.



The experience of the Eagles being a damned good organization for about 8 years?

Everyone leaves but Reid and now they suck [inappropriate/removed].

Just sayen


Just sayen exactly what?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entropy wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
Entropy wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bruceb wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
bungleodeon wrote:
Estonianzulu wrote:
Shurmur was not brought in because he was an offensive mastermind. He was brought in because of the work he helped do with Donovan McNabb and Sam Bradford to try and develop a Quarterback.

So far his success is so-so in that regard


So you don't think his last name had anything to do with it? I have to disagree.

With most front office decisions, we'll never know the whole story, but I've read some reports that said it was Heckert that really pushed for Shurmur, not Holmgren. Heckert was the one who worked with him in Philly.

Yeah, his uncle might have worked with Holmy, and yeah, Heckert liked him in Philly, but let's not forget the real reason Shurmur was hired.




LaMonte


This is one reason the FO is being dismantled. Wonder how much, in addition to his $8mil from Randy, Holmgren got from the BobFather for all his client signings?


Banner signed Heckert and Shurmur's paychecks in Philadelphia (figuratively. perhaps maybe even literally)

you have no clue what you're talking about


Huh? Bereft of logic.


bruce.. Reid, Heckert, and Shurmur all worked in Philly together...Banner "signed" their checks...does that clear it up for you?


No.


Ok...hmmm...did Banner "dismantle" Reid, Heckert, Childress, and Shurmur when they all worked in Philly together back in 2001?


No. He learned from the experience.



The experience of the Eagles being a damned good organization for about 8 years?

Everyone leaves but Reid and now they suck [inappropriate/removed].

Just sayen


But nug, aint winning bad when you have some FO people that have the same agent?


It's not just about having the same agent. It's how it happened, the extent to which it happened and the results.

Apparently you haven't read Banner's comments on cronyism.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Banner write an article about his feelings of Cronyism?

Sorry had to break the quote tree
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
Did Banner write an article about his feelings of Cronyism?

Sorry had to break the quote tree


No, thanks...I need to do that more often

And, um I have no idea if Banner wrote an article about cronyism, but if he did, I'm pretty sure it would be more about political cronyism, and NOT about how hiring some employees that share the same agent is bad.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bruceb wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
bungleodeon wrote:
Estonianzulu wrote:
Shurmur was not brought in because he was an offensive mastermind. He was brought in because of the work he helped do with Donovan McNabb and Sam Bradford to try and develop a Quarterback.

So far his success is so-so in that regard


So you don't think his last name had anything to do with it? I have to disagree.

With most front office decisions, we'll never know the whole story, but I've read some reports that said it was Heckert that really pushed for Shurmur, not Holmgren. Heckert was the one who worked with him in Philly.

Yeah, his uncle might have worked with Holmy, and yeah, Heckert liked him in Philly, but let's not forget the real reason Shurmur was hired.




LaMonte


This is one reason the FO is being dismantled. Wonder how much, in addition to his $8mil from Randy, Holmgren got from the BobFather for all his client signings?


Banner signed Heckert and Shurmur's paychecks in Philadelphia (figuratively. perhaps maybe even literally)

you have no clue what you're talking about


Huh? Bereft of logic.


yeah not at all.
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