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Geno Smith.
Tyler Wilson.
Flip a coin.
The Chiefs will be doing this.
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| TambaHawk wrote: | Oh we are getting a Smith just not Geno Smith  |
I hope you don't mean Alex Smith, because that's what I fear is going to happen.
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| lawful yet1 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Rearviewmirror wrote: | | bigschmadt00 wrote: | | ^but is Hudson going to the probowl? |
are the only good OL probowlers? That is news to me. |
An OLine with 1-2 pro bowlers and 3-4 average to below average is apparently better than having 5 above average with 2 just below pro bowl level, for example.
Atleast that's what i'm learning from this thread.
Also Ryk was referring to the '10 Packers and lawful is referring to the '96 Packers. Pimping Timmerman as a pro bowler to prove a point is great, but he was only in his 2nd or 3rd year and was not a pro bowler at that time...even if he was at that level, what about the rest of the line...not to mention you're not even talking about the right Packer team. |
5 above average who are they why havent i ever seen them on the feild are they hurt? Albert yes Asomoah he's getting there who in the world are the outher 3 please fill me in here |
I never said we had 5 above average...that was just an example of you putting pro bowls above all else, most consider that a ridiculous way to assess a line. We have atleast 3 above average and I would guess Winston is an above average RT too....and like Bigs said Allen has a great chance of being above average.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| Herm the Squirm wrote: | | TambaHawk wrote: | | Oh we are getting a Smith just not Geno Smith |
I hope you don't mean Alex Smith, because that's what I fear is going to happen. |
I hope we get a rookie, but I would actually be happy with Alex Smith.
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Alex Smith has proven that he can win in this league. He did well with Turner and with Harbaugh. People forget he had a new offensive coordinator each of his first 5 seasons, and while he is smart it takes time to get a good feel for an offense. I would like to see us bring in Turner to run the offense if we do sign Alex. I think if that were to happen we will be alright. We will still need to draft a QB, but it can be in round 2.
Alex Smith is the only QB who might be available that I would want.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | lawful yet1 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Rearviewmirror wrote: | | bigschmadt00 wrote: | | ^but is Hudson going to the probowl? |
are the only good OL probowlers? That is news to me. |
An OLine with 1-2 pro bowlers and 3-4 average to below average is apparently better than having 5 above average with 2 just below pro bowl level, for example.
Atleast that's what i'm learning from this thread.
Also Ryk was referring to the '10 Packers and lawful is referring to the '96 Packers. Pimping Timmerman as a pro bowler to prove a point is great, but he was only in his 2nd or 3rd year and was not a pro bowler at that time...even if he was at that level, what about the rest of the line...not to mention you're not even talking about the right Packer team. |
5 above average who are they why havent i ever seen them on the feild are they hurt? Albert yes Asomoah he's getting there who in the world are the outher 3 please fill me in here |
I never said we had 5 above average...that was just an example of you putting pro bowls above all else, most consider that a ridiculous way to assess a line. We have atleast 3 above average and I would guess Winston is an above average RT too....and like Bigs said Allen has a great chance of being above average. |
take the homer helmet off please Allen has shown nouthing at all that would lead someone to think there is any hope he could ever even become mediocre the dude is lazzy and has no clue what he's doing |
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| EB29 wrote: | | Hudson. Above Average. |
way to early to say that i hope your right but 3 games isnt enough |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Herm the Squirm wrote: | | TambaHawk wrote: | | Oh we are getting a Smith just not Geno Smith |
I hope you don't mean Alex Smith, because that's what I fear is going to happen. |
I hope we get a rookie, but I would actually be happy with Alex Smith. |
I won't be. He doesn't throw the ball farther than 10 yards down the field either.
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| lawful yet1 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | lawful yet1 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Rearviewmirror wrote: | | bigschmadt00 wrote: | | ^but is Hudson going to the probowl? |
are the only good OL probowlers? That is news to me. |
An OLine with 1-2 pro bowlers and 3-4 average to below average is apparently better than having 5 above average with 2 just below pro bowl level, for example.
Atleast that's what i'm learning from this thread.
Also Ryk was referring to the '10 Packers and lawful is referring to the '96 Packers. Pimping Timmerman as a pro bowler to prove a point is great, but he was only in his 2nd or 3rd year and was not a pro bowler at that time...even if he was at that level, what about the rest of the line...not to mention you're not even talking about the right Packer team. |
5 above average who are they why havent i ever seen them on the feild are they hurt? Albert yes Asomoah he's getting there who in the world are the outher 3 please fill me in here |
I never said we had 5 above average...that was just an example of you putting pro bowls above all else, most consider that a ridiculous way to assess a line. We have atleast 3 above average and I would guess Winston is an above average RT too....and like Bigs said Allen has a great chance of being above average. |
take the homer helmet off please Allen has shown nouthing at all that would lead someone to think there is any hope he could ever even become mediocre the dude is lazzy and has no clue what he's doing |
he's a rookie. Tons of rookies struggle early on and then are fine. He's shown flashes of great play, he just doesn't do it consistently. He just needs to continue to work on his technique and continue to get used to the speed of the game. I don't know why you think he's "lazy"
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Jamie Dukes said it best about Alex Smith. Is he a good qb? Yes he is. But is he a QB that can win you a game down by 10 points in the 4th quarter? No he's not. That alone separates Superbowl contending teams vs regular middle of the road playoff teams, and ultimately that's why his own coach is going with Colin K instead of him.
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| Mikek163 wrote: | | Jamie Dukes said it best about Alex Smith. Is he a good qb? Yes he is. But is he a QB that can win you a game down by 10 points in the 4th quarter? No he's not. That alone separates Superbowl contending teams vs regular middle of the road playoff teams, and ultimately that's why his own coach is going with Colin K instead of him. |
First off Mikey, if you are listening to Jamie Dukes, shame on you. Also, Alex Smith is not Peyton Manning, ok. We got that one. Is he a legitimate starting quarterback in the NFL? Yes. Did you watch the playoff game against the Saints last year? You don't seriously think someone like Matt Cassel wouldn't completely fold in that situation? Listen, I don't think we should look at Smith as the be-all-end-all to our quarterback situation, but he would absolutely be an upgrade right now over anyone we currently have on our roster and also any prospective free agent on the market this upcoming offseason.
He could be the veteran that is paired with a young quarterback - Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson, Mike Glennon, Ryan Nassib, E.J. Manuel, Zac Dysert, etc., etc.
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| nicfre2011 wrote: | | Mikek163 wrote: | | Jamie Dukes said it best about Alex Smith. Is he a good qb? Yes he is. But is he a QB that can win you a game down by 10 points in the 4th quarter? No he's not. That alone separates Superbowl contending teams vs regular middle of the road playoff teams, and ultimately that's why his own coach is going with Colin K instead of him. |
First off Mikey, if you are listening to Jamie Dukes, shame on you. Also, Alex Smith is not Peyton Manning, ok. We got that one. Is he a legitimate starting quarterback in the NFL? Yes. Did you watch the playoff game against the Saints last year? You don't seriously think someone like Matt Cassel wouldn't completely fold in that situation? Listen, I don't think we should look at Smith as the be-all-end-all to our quarterback situation, but he would absolutely be an upgrade right now over anyone we currently have on our roster and also any prospective free agent on the market this upcoming offseason.
He could be the veteran that is paired with a young quarterback - Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson, Mike Glennon, Ryan Nassib, E.J. Manuel, Zac Dysert, etc., etc. |
2011 regular season stats for the NWO defense reads as follows-
30th in the NFL @ 260 reception yards per game.
24th in the NFL @ 368 total yards per game.
I'm not doubting he didn't shred that defense. But so did every other god damn qb that year.
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One more thing Nic. Jim Harbaugh is saying the same thing Jamie Dukes is saying. Actually no, Jim Harbaugh is literally doing it.
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| Mikek163 wrote: | | One more thing Nic. Jim Harbaugh is saying the same thing Jamie Dukes is saying. Actually no, Jim Harbaugh is literally doing it. |
Jim Harbaugh is rolling with his guy. I never doubted he would at some point in time. So I guess I will roll this out to you - how are we going to address the QB situation? Draft Geno Smith and have Stanzi is backup? Just wondering. You seem to shoot down every possible candidate that is thrown out there. We missed out on Peyton Manning. That is water under the bridge. So other than backing up a Brinks truck to Joe Flacco's house if he is franchised (and coughing up two 1st round picks), how do we get to the light at the end of the tunnel?
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Oh, and I was talking more about the throws that Smith had to make in that game. He made the passes he had to so the team could actually have a shot at winning in the end. Cassel would have thrown a pick on a RB outlet pass with 2 minutes left.
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