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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL- TwoWinsAway wrote:
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Don't expect Lions to put in a waiver claim on Jason Babin.


Why?

Dave Birkett tweet.


Only reason I can think of not to is if we don't have the required cap space.

Or he isn't viewed as being enough of an upgrade for his contract.


I doubt that, especially with the little amount of pressure we are getting from our ends.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet the Lions did put in a claim but Jags got him.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Or he isn't viewed as being enough of an upgrade for his contract.


I doubt that, especially with the little amount of pressure we are getting from our ends.

Does anyone happen to have pressure stats? I ask because Babin has been underwhelming this year. I'd like to see where he matches up.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
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Or he isn't viewed as being enough of an upgrade for his contract.


I doubt that, especially with the little amount of pressure we are getting from our ends.

Does anyone happen to have pressure stats? I ask because Babin has been underwhelming this year. I'd like to see where he matches up.
Babin has 20 hurries, Avril leads Detroit(DEs) with 15 per PFF premium (paid for) stats.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PFF uses weird ways to calculate pressures and are inconsistent in the way they measure them. Not completely writing them off but I wouldn't put much stock into it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why exactly did Philly let him go? They run the same scheme that the Lions do and he's had some decent success in the past. You would think they need all the help they can get considering the position they're in. I just missed their reasoning so I'm curious.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why exactly did Philly let him go? They run the same scheme that the Lions do and he's had some decent success in the past. You would think they need all the help they can get considering the position they're in. I just missed their reasoning so I'm curious.

I think it's a youth movement thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
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Why exactly did Philly let him go? They run the same scheme that the Lions do and he's had some decent success in the past. You would think they need all the help they can get considering the position they're in. I just missed their reasoning so I'm curious.

I think it's a youth movement thing.


Isn't he under contract for one more year (if I remember right)? I was a little surprised to see them not try to move him for at least a late pick or something. Of course, that's assuming they didn't try to do so... maybe there was little or no market for him... I don't know.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would imagine the move was made for several reasons.
A) to send a message to the team.
B) youth movement.
C) Babin recently called Philly fans vile. (Some Philly posters think he may have gotten into argument with staff as well)

As for not trading, I imagine it is a combination of age, contract, and the fact he has only had success in the wide 9.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
X_Factor_40 wrote:
Why exactly did Philly let him go? They run the same scheme that the Lions do and he's had some decent success in the past. You would think they need all the help they can get considering the position they're in. I just missed their reasoning so I'm curious.

I think it's a youth movement thing.


Yeah they have Graham, Curry, Hunt, and Tapp along with Cole who all are younger though Babin was more productive than all of them. Plus they're obviously getting ready to rebuild after the season and probably wanted to dump the salary.
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LionsFan630 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
X_Factor_40 wrote:
Why exactly did Philly let him go? They run the same scheme that the Lions do and he's had some decent success in the past. You would think they need all the help they can get considering the position they're in. I just missed their reasoning so I'm curious.

I think it's a youth movement thing.


Yeah they have Graham, Curry, Hunt, and Tapp along with Cole who all are younger though Babin was more productive than all of them. Plus they're obviously getting ready to rebuild after the season and probably wanted to dump the salary.


It makes sense. They certainly need to evaluate talent going forward and make some significant changes.
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It was definitely a youth movement. They want to gauge what they have in Graham & Curry to see if those 2 are their future at DE. They decided to it now, probably because they've given up on Reid and are full rebuild now (they probably say "retool")
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