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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bill Polian anybody? Just throwing out another name


I personally don't know why this name doesn't get thrown around more in our forums. The guy is an amazing GM and got "pooped" on in Indi. I would LOVE him in K.C.

Because while it seems like Indy has a good draft history under him at a glance, it is actually quite underwhelming. Start here and scroll to his last draft in 2011.


Seems like he hits big on his 1st round picks but misses a lot on his other picks. Some of those drafts are downright horrendous lol!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikek163 wrote:
Rumless wrote:
Mikek163 wrote:
KCDiehard88 wrote:
Bill Polian anybody? Just throwing out another name


I personally don't know why this name doesn't get thrown around more in our forums. The guy is an amazing GM and got "pooped" on in Indi. I would LOVE him in K.C.

Because while it seems like Indy has a good draft history under him at a glance, it is actually quite underwhelming. Start here and scroll to his last draft in 2011.


Seems like he hits big on his 1st round picks but misses a lot on his other picks. Some of those drafts are downright horrendous lol!



first rounders off the top of my head that have been disappointing for Polian:

1. Joseph Addai
2. Donald Brown
3. Jerry Hughes
4. Anthony Gonzalez
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rearviewmirror wrote:
Mikek163 wrote:
Rumless wrote:
Mikek163 wrote:
KCDiehard88 wrote:
Bill Polian anybody? Just throwing out another name


I personally don't know why this name doesn't get thrown around more in our forums. The guy is an amazing GM and got "pooped" on in Indi. I would LOVE him in K.C.

Because while it seems like Indy has a good draft history under him at a glance, it is actually quite underwhelming. Start here and scroll to his last draft in 2011.


Seems like he hits big on his 1st round picks but misses a lot on his other picks. Some of those drafts are downright horrendous lol!



first rounders off the top of my head that have been disappointing for Polian:

1. Joseph Addai
2. Donald Brown
3. Jerry Hughes
4. Anthony Gonzalez


Ryk had me believing in Jerry Hughes so much that I wanted the Chiefs to draft him so badly.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Addai was good, but didn't have much o-line help most of his career.

Donald Brown is very average, but it was in a terrible draft, and #27 overall.

Hughes has looked 100 times better in Pagano's 3-4 this year. He actually is one of the better players on their defense, and many are saying is making Freeney expendable.

Anthony Gonzalez was a very good WR, he just couldn't stay healthy.

Honestly, I look through their drafts and I see some very talented players, some late round gems, and some solid role players. IMO the biggest failures of their drafting was taking players for a style of defense that requires a lead to work well at all, and taking too many chances on health risks.

Polian in his career has overseen the Bills going to 4 straight SB's, the Panthers from expansion team to NFC championship game in 2 years, and the Colts being at least a 10 win team in 11 of 14 seasons he was there.

I personally think we could do a LOT worse than Polian.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joe Addai was good, but didn't have much o-line help most of his career.

Donald Brown is very average, but it was in a terrible draft, and #27 overall.

Hughes has looked 100 times better in Pagano's 3-4 this year. He actually is one of the better players on their defense, and many are saying is making Freeney expendable.

Anthony Gonzalez was a very good WR, he just couldn't stay healthy.

Honestly, I look through their drafts and I see some very talented players, some late round gems, and some solid role players. IMO the biggest failures of their drafting was taking players for a style of defense that requires a lead to work well at all, and taking too many chances on health risks.

Polian in his career has overseen the Bills going to 4 straight SB's, the Panthers from expansion team to NFC championship game in 2 years, and the Colts being at least a 10 win team in 11 of 14 seasons he was there.

I personally think we could do a LOT worse than Polian.


Addai wasn't good enough for a round 1 RB. Pretty much no RB is good enough to be a round 1 RB. Adrian Peterson is the only one that comes to mind for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bigschmadt00 wrote:
Joe Addai was good, but didn't have much o-line help most of his career.

Donald Brown is very average, but it was in a terrible draft, and #27 overall.

Hughes has looked 100 times better in Pagano's 3-4 this year. He actually is one of the better players on their defense, and many are saying is making Freeney expendable.

Anthony Gonzalez was a very good WR, he just couldn't stay healthy.

Honestly, I look through their drafts and I see some very talented players, some late round gems, and some solid role players. IMO the biggest failures of their drafting was taking players for a style of defense that requires a lead to work well at all, and taking too many chances on health risks.

Polian in his career has overseen the Bills going to 4 straight SB's, the Panthers from expansion team to NFC championship game in 2 years, and the Colts being at least a 10 win team in 11 of 14 seasons he was there.

I personally think we could do a LOT worse than Polian.


Addai wasn't good enough for a round 1 RB. Pretty much no RB is good enough to be a round 1 RB. Adrian Peterson is the only one that comes to mind for me.

But when you're winning 12 games every year, and it's quite obvious you are 1-2 pieces away from winning a SB, taking a RB early to do that (which they did btw and Addai was a huge part of that) is not nearly as big of a deal.

I mean we're advocating we'd be insane not to take a QB in the 1st, even if it's a big reach, because it's such a huge need for our team. That's nothing compared to a perennial playoff team taking a shot on a RB late in the first. Should they have gone with MJD, absolutely, but he was the 6th guy taken that year, so they weren't the only ones to pass on him.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bigschmadt00 wrote:
Joe Addai was good, but didn't have much o-line help most of his career.

Donald Brown is very average, but it was in a terrible draft, and #27 overall.

Hughes has looked 100 times better in Pagano's 3-4 this year. He actually is one of the better players on their defense, and many are saying is making Freeney expendable.

Anthony Gonzalez was a very good WR, he just couldn't stay healthy.

Honestly, I look through their drafts and I see some very talented players, some late round gems, and some solid role players. IMO the biggest failures of their drafting was taking players for a style of defense that requires a lead to work well at all, and taking too many chances on health risks.

Polian in his career has overseen the Bills going to 4 straight SB's, the Panthers from expansion team to NFC championship game in 2 years, and the Colts being at least a 10 win team in 11 of 14 seasons he was there.

I personally think we could do a LOT worse than Polian.


Addai wasn't good enough for a round 1 RB. Pretty much no RB is good enough to be a round 1 RB. Adrian Peterson is the only one that comes to mind for me.

But when you're winning 12 games every year, and it's quite obvious you are 1-2 pieces away from winning a SB, taking a RB early to do that (which they did btw and Addai was a huge part of that) is not nearly as big of a deal.

I mean we're advocating we'd be insane not to take a QB in the 1st, even if it's a big reach, because it's such a huge need for our team. That's nothing compared to a perennial playoff team taking a shot on a RB late in the first. Should they have gone with MJD, absolutely, but he was the 6th guy taken that year, so they weren't the only ones to pass on him.


the Colts NEVER had a defense good enough to justify a RB in round 1. You telling me that they couldn't find somebody to give them Addai production in the 3rd round or so? Then to take Donald Brown several years after that? Crazy and not smart in my opinion.
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