I called out Timmons before this season

at23steelers · Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 3721 Location: United States

With all due respect to Charlie, I don't know how anyone can support him as being our backup from a performance like that. His balls float so much and look like ducks. He overthrew players by a lot and they were only like 5-10 yards away from him. Now, if he starts this week I expect him to bounce back and play better, but I don't think it'd be enough.

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SteelProven · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:54 am Post subject:

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It wasn't a "bad" game. It was an embarrassing game. They were putrid. Mendenhall was supposed to be a feature back, and he fumbled nearly every time he touched the ball.

Given the way we spread defenses out, I find it hard to believe that our offensive line is just so bad that we never have any running lanes open, ever. Our RB's suck, period. I never bought Redman last year, don't buy him this year. And there's nothing explosive about anyone else except Mendenhall, and now he can't stay on the field because of injury or fumbles.

Not that I think we need an "elite" back, but going with these "power" backs isn't getting us anywhere on the ground. Might be time to go for a more dynamic runner, since Mendenhall blew his shot at that.

SteelProven · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:31 am Post subject:

Nobody has ever tried to change the way Mendenhall carried the ball even though they knew it was wrong. Mendenhall is a good RB, but his lack of playing time and real live contact has limited his ability. He shouldn't be starting at this point especially since he was injured for the majority of the season. I know that the Steelers say you can't lose your job to injury, but Mendenhall's a RB it shouldn't matter who starts. What matters is who finishes the game.
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Gatoradus · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:03 am Post subject:

Yeah but even we fans know this; we haven't succeed by rotating rbs in out and utilitizing plays to rb's strength, because that's not how it works. Giants' former version of tiki barber, brandon jacobs, and a. Bradshaw were the "best rotating corp" past decade and that didn't get them to super bowl!

O-line this young need consistency of style and plays to develop a rhyme during the game. We would be better at this if it were fast willie parker andmewelde moore but that's not the case.

Sudden... todd haley seem overrated, scary huh?

SteelProven · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:25 am Post subject:

Todd Haley is a good OC I believe some times he just out coaching himself. The Steelers have to try to run outside at least sometimes and I don't think they do it enough. I don't know if it's because they can't or it's just not part of the offense.

Dwyer has good vision when the play gets clogged up and has the patience to find the opening in the defense. Is best used in 2 WR sets because he has the vision/power and nimble feet to find a hole.

Redman has decent vision is strong at POA. Probably the most versatile as shown by his 100 yd receiving day.

Mendenhall is good open field vision/awareness, but has average vision when plays aren't there. Mendenhall is the ideal version of what you would look for in a 3rd down back. 3 WR sets where the players in the box are minimum.

Rainey has shown he can run between the tackles but doesn't have the power to break tackles. So I'm wondering why the Steelers don't try to get him outside more.

The Steelers have quality RBs even with there self destruction in Cleveland. The Steelers really can't go wrong with there choice of RB. They just need to play to that RBs strength.
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MightyJoeYoung · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:21 am Post subject:

Not a single one of our RBs actually sucks. They are all somewhat good in fact.
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at23steelers · Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 3721 Location: United States

I would say Haley is restricted due to our QB play. I haven't liked his play-calling at all the last two games, but I can't really blame him too much either. I think it'll be a better judge this week in calling plays, since that was the first time he saw Byron / Batch throw for our team.

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Gatoradus · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject:

Finally!

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The Curtain · Joined: 24 Sep 2012 Posts: 284

Not expecting a pro. I'm also not expecting these slow "power backs" with zero explosiveness. There was a time where we had a line that meshed well with these kinds of guys, where we could punch it for 3 yards, then another 3 or 4, then do whatever we wanted on 3rd down. Those days are long gone, like you said. I just think we're still living in this mentality that we're a smash mouth football team on offense, when we are not. A guy like Rainey seems to make more sense in our offense.

And just from a talent perspective, I doubt Redman or Dwyer or even Mendenhall would be starters on most teams in the league, unless they're worse off than us at the position.