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Is Desean Jackson a luxury we can't afford?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:12 am    Post subject: Is Desean Jackson a luxury we canít afford? Reply with quote

With our season really up the creek without a paddle, there are going to be some difficult questions which need answering which I will post at reasonable intervals.

Difficult Question #1 - Is Desean Jackson a luxury we canít afford?



Note: Afford means 'afford in having' rather than 'afford in paying' - his contract is structured well.

Let me start off with making the note that I don't think Jackson should or will go anywhere, but it is one of the difficult questions we need to consider in the offseason.

In March, Desean Jackson signed a 5 year, $47m contract with the Philadelphia Eagles. This locked him up with the Eagles until the end of the 2016 season. This season, Jackson has put up 691 yards receiving more importantly, he hasnít dropped a pass. However, he has only 2 touchdowns in the struggling offense and in the game against the Redskins, only had 2 catches for 5 yards. With the Eagles about to enter a new era; for the first time in 14 years without Andrew Walter Reid, is Jackson a luxury we canít afford to have in the rebuilding stage.

Build around those players we have



The main reason not to do anything silly with Jackson is that we need to build around the talent that we have Ė McCoy and Jackson are the two main weapons on offense and any young quarterback (be it Foles or a draft pick) will need these two to develop as a player. Moving Jackson through a trade would just open up another hole for our front office and coaching staff to fill in the offseason.

If Jackson a #1 receiver?



I donít think anyone could doubt that Desean Jackson is a playmaker. His speed is a rare attribute and he has shown on punt returns that he is a danger every time he touches the ball. However, it is difficult to claim that he is a #1 receiver. At 5-9 170 lbs, Jackson isnít big enough or strong enough to do all the things expected of that #1 receiver. You fear for him if he runs slants; he canít really go up and out muscle the defensive back for the ball. We have also seen times Jackson to be nonexistent in the passing game where the defense plays Cover 2 and Jackson is negated. Now this could be due to crummy gameplanning and playcalling, but you have to wonder if Jackson can be relied upon to be that 1200 yard plus receiver; or if he should be the complimentary receiver who also returns punts and is used on gadget plays.

Contract and what value could we get?



As mentioned above, Jackson signed a $47m contract. However, only $15m of it was guaranteed. Based on information available, we would take a reasonable cap hit if he were to be traded, but leaves the team who would trade for him with a cap friendly contract.

Who would trade for him? Teams which have a #1 receiver but needs that dynamic threat to get them over the hill. A team with an imaginative offensive playcaller who could get the most out of Jackson would also be beneficial. One team that stands out to me would be Houston. While they drafted Posey and Martin, they havenít got a real X factor opposite Johnson.

That leads onto what we could receive for him. Given his contract, his return skills and the fact that he is an X factor, a 1st round pick is a minimum.

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So to summarise, with the Eagles about to go through a rebuilding phase, do they cash in one of their chips which, while it might hurt them next year, could give them the additional building blocks to be a real force in the years to come?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even with a new coaching staff, I don't think he's going anywhere. We just need a true #1 WR to pair with him.

We can free up $40M+ from cutting Vick, Bell, Babin, Nnamdi, etc. So by that point, DeSean's contract won't be an issue at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eagles_808 wrote:
Even with a new coaching staff, I don't think he's going anywhere. We just need a true #1 WR to pair with him.

We can free up $40M+ from cutting Vick, Bell, Babin, Nnamdi, etc. So by that point, DeSean's contract won't be an issue at all.


It's not about the money, it's about the fact that a cynic could call him a gimmick. A very good gimmick, but someone who can and has been shut out of games.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na, DeSean is on a reasonable price, and is playing very well, we can save cap by ridding ourselves of others.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not about the money, it's about the fact that a cynic could call him a gimmick. A very good gimmick, but someone who can and has been shut out of games.
Get him a true #1 WR, who generates real attention from opposing defenses, and DeSean's gimmick becomes an asset.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did any of you actually read all of it - the cap issue isn't the problem. It's the fact that we could use Jackson to make our team better in the long run.
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marky_b27 wrote:
It's not about the money, it's about the fact that a cynic could call him a gimmick. A very good gimmick, but someone who can and has been shut out of games.
Get him a true #1 WR, who generates real attention from opposing defenses, and DeSean's gimmick becomes an asset.


That was what I was kind of arguing, but it's something we need to consider.

If we, say bring in Norv Turner as OC, he just doesn't use short receivers. Then what?
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Did any of you actually read all of it - the cap issue isn't the problem. It's the fact that we could use Jackson to make our team better in the long run.


You don't get rid of a weapon like that, you build around it, it stretches the field. A true No.1 opposite will open space for him.
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You don't get rid of a weapon like that, you build around it, it stretches the field. A true No.1 opposite will open space for him.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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marky_b27 wrote:
Did any of you actually read all of it - the cap issue isn't the problem. It's the fact that we could use Jackson to make our team better in the long run.


You don't get rid of a weapon like that, you build around it, it stretches the field. A true No.1 opposite will open space for him.


Which is what we need, but will it come this year????
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If we, say bring in Norv Turner as OC, he just doesn't use short receivers. Then what?
Isn't Eddie Royal a Charger right now?

I'm sure if we hire someone who "doesn't use short WRs," they'll find a way to use DeSean somehow.
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You don't get rid of a weapon like that, you build around it, it stretches the field. A true No.1 opposite will open space for him.
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For the avoidance of doubt, I'm also in the keep and build round Jackson and McCoy corner, but as I said, it is a difficult question which may be raised in the future.
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Eagles_808 wrote:
marky_b27 wrote:
If we, say bring in Norv Turner as OC, he just doesn't use short receivers. Then what?
Isn't Eddie Royal a Charger right now?

I'm sure if we hire someone who "doesn't use short WRs," they'll find a way to use DeSean somehow.


Eddie Royal can go over the middle.

Jackson has a sick note preventing him

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I'm also in the keep and build round Jackson and McCoy corner, but as I said, it is a difficult question which may be raised in the future.
We have more difficult questions to answer though Marky. That is the point I'm trying to make.

Do we keep Roseman as GM?
Who will be a our HC?
Who will be our QB?
What do we do with the defense?
Can we employ a competent safety duo?
What do we do with the O-line?

Those are bigger issues than "should we build around McCoy and Jackson," IMO.
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Trade Maclin if anything, for Bowe......why not
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