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CrashMan510
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About time Willie Smith made the Bottom 5, hes definitely earned it
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RandyMossIsBoss
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| JammerHammer21 wrote: | | RMIB, do you have coverage stats for safeties? I'd be interested to see Weddle's and the other top safeties. |
I do. Although keep in my mind there CB metrics are pretty debatable, so you can only guess how much worse their safety coverage probably is. They're just not good at giving the proper blame in zone or when safeties play over the top .
1. Eric Weddle
17 Targets, 12 Catches Allowed for 97 Yards (39 YAC) and 1 TD, 2 INTs
2. Reshad Jones
21 Targets, 9 Catches Allowed for 164 Yards (79 YAC) and 1 TD, 0 INTs
3. TJ Ward
20 Targets, 9 Catches Allowed for 101 Yards (15 YAC) and 1 TD, 2 INTs
4. Jairus Byrd
10 Targets, 9 Catches Allowed for 113 Yards (53 YAC) and 0 TDs, 3 INTs
5. Ronde Barber
31 Targets, 21 Catches Allowed for 242 Yards (147 YAC) and 1 TD, 3 INTs
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JammerHammer21
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| RandyMossIsBoss wrote: | | JammerHammer21 wrote: | | RMIB, do you have coverage stats for safeties? I'd be interested to see Weddle's and the other top safeties. |
I do. Although keep in my mind there CB metrics are pretty debatable, so you can only guess how much worse their safety coverage probably is. They're just not good at giving the proper blame in zone or when safeties play over the top .
1. Eric Weddle
17 Targets, 12 Catches Allowed for 97 Yards (39 YAC) and 1 TD, 2 INTs
2. Reshad Jones
21 Targets, 9 Catches Allowed for 164 Yards (79 YAC) and 1 TD, 0 INTs
3. TJ Ward
20 Targets, 9 Catches Allowed for 101 Yards (15 YAC) and 1 TD, 2 INTs
4. Jairus Byrd
10 Targets, 9 Catches Allowed for 113 Yards (53 YAC) and 0 TDs, 3 INTs
5. Ronde Barber
31 Targets, 21 Catches Allowed for 242 Yards (147 YAC) and 1 TD, 3 INTs |
Yes I can imagine. Weddle doesn't play man enough to give him credit for most of those receptions I assume, and I bet that goes for all other safeties too. I don't even remember him getting targeted that much. Only time I remember he was actually in man it seemed was the Colston TD catch (which was a beautiful throw and grab out of Weddle's way).
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Sciz
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Unless the offender is clear, PFF credit receptions to the closest defender. It's one situation where some knowledge of the game and ability to recognize coverages would come in really useful.
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ArrowheadRage58
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:12 am Post subject: |
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How is Cassel not in the bottom 5?
On the other hand, sometimes this can be pretty accurate...Berry has been in the bottom 5 ALL year, but has played much better recently and no longer appears.
Derrick Johnson...just WOW!!!! No Chief game should be boring for ANYONE if you focus on this guy. The dude is playing at an unreal HOF type level, which is a shame he can't be in conversation for Defensive player of the year because of his team. He hasn't been in these rankings all year after a slow first 2 games and is now the #2 ILB, which means the last 2 or 3 weeks (and we've seen it with the eye test) he's been blowing away the competition.
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| fortdetroit wrote: | | I wonder if people realize that Matt Cassel's 2 best seasons of his career are probably better than anything Alex Smith has ever done. |
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JammerHammer21
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | How is Cassel not in the bottom 5?
On the other hand, sometimes this can be pretty accurate...Berry has been in the bottom 5 ALL year, but has played much better recently and no longer appears.
Derrick Johnson...just WOW!!!! No Chief game should be boring for ANYONE if you focus on this guy. The dude is playing at an unreal HOF type level, which is a shame he can't be in conversation for Defensive player of the year because of his team. He hasn't been in these rankings all year after a slow first 2 games and is now the #2 ILB, which means the last 2 or 3 weeks (and we've seen it with the eye test) he's been blowing away the competition. |
DJ wouldn't be in conversation for DPOY even if the Chiefs were good (even though record doesn't really affect DPOY.....)
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bmore4life815
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Kyle Arrington's picked it up, I guess. According to Tzimisce and another NE fan, QB's had a perfect rating targeting him as of 3 or so weeks ago.
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KhanYouDigIt
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2nd worst WR in the NFL just shredded the Texans defense for 236 yards on 7 catches.
Oops.
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Billsin2013
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| Good to see Podlesh in the bottom 5 for punters. Guy has been garbage this season after playing so well last year. He did have an injury coming into the season and it was a question whether he'd start the season but Jesus. The whole Bears special teams unit has been garbage this season which is a huge surprise considering they're normally so good. |
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RandyMossIsBoss
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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updated everything to reflect week 11
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JammerHammer21
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Von Miller lolollololol how is he so good?
Weddle still T1. 
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| Bohlmann20 (On The 95 Cleveland Browns Staff) wrote: | | Lombardi - Isn't that the guy the trophy is named after? If so, top 3 coach of all time. |
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Babylon
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| bmore4life815 wrote: | | Kyle Arrington's picked it up, I guess. According to Tzimisce and another NE fan, QB's had a perfect rating targeting him as of 3 or so weeks ago. |
He's 'down' to a 146.5 QB rating (worst in the league), and by their grading system, there are currently 21 CB's who've been worse in pass coverage then he is, including guys like William Gay, who's allowing the equivalent of a 78 QB Rating. |
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MaddHatter
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Still riding that Spencer train I see - can't stop laughing
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JammerHammer21
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| MaddHatter wrote: | | Still riding that Spencer train I see - can't stop laughing |
Not as bad as the Mathis train. 
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| Bohlmann20 (On The 95 Cleveland Browns Staff) wrote: | | Lombardi - Isn't that the guy the trophy is named after? If so, top 3 coach of all time. |
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SnA ExclusiVe
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These are just who they have "rated" as better, right? Not actually who IS better?
Because there's no way Casey Heyward is better than Richard Sherman.
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| Leon Sandcastle wrote: | | Torrey Smith is a deep threat, he will never be a top-10 WR...he doesn't posses the raw athleticism that Dez does...sorry |
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