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How bad do we merk them?
just win
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too much to count
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hahaha Chiefs are going 13-3
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broncos suck
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big_palooka


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitty wrote:
I got a feeling that Palmer will retire after this season.


What a slap in the face that would be. With so many issues on the roster, having to address the #1 position on the field in the offseason sound like hell.

Not exactly the best class of QBs either.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
bitty wrote:
I got a feeling that Palmer will retire after this season.


What a slap in the face that would be. With so many issues on the roster, having to address the #1 position on the field in the offseason sound like hell.

Not exactly the best class of QBs either.


He wanted to retire last year and he's just getting killed out there unless the Raiders do something to keep him. Like asking him what OC he wants.

I don't see them playing.

That was my biggest fear coming in to this year.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitty wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
bitty wrote:
I got a feeling that Palmer will retire after this season.


What a slap in the face that would be. With so many issues on the roster, having to address the #1 position on the field in the offseason sound like hell.

Not exactly the best class of QBs either.


He wanted to retire last year and he's just getting killed out there unless the Raiders do something to keep him. Like asking him what OC he wants.

I don't see them playing.

That was my biggest fear coming in to this year.
Well, he is a quitter and we won't go far with him anyway, out with the old in with the new. We might be able to get a QB if we trade into the 2nd like Landry or Dysert, i'd prefer at a young QB at this point, no way we can build a entire defense and fix the running game in one offseason and Palmer needs a complete team to win games.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
bitty wrote:
I got a feeling that Palmer will retire after this season.


What a slap in the face that would be. With so many issues on the roster, having to address the #1 position on the field in the offseason sound like hell.

Not exactly the best class of QBs either.


Well not the top guys.

I like Manuel, Jones and Wilson. Guys in the late 2nd-3rd round range. The state of the franchise would be at an all-time low if that happened though..
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nodisrespect wrote:
bitty wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
bitty wrote:
I got a feeling that Palmer will retire after this season.


What a slap in the face that would be. With so many issues on the roster, having to address the #1 position on the field in the offseason sound like hell.

Not exactly the best class of QBs either.


He wanted to retire last year and he's just getting killed out there unless the Raiders do something to keep him. Like asking him what OC he wants.

I don't see them playing.

That was my biggest fear coming in to this year.
Well, he is a quitter and we won't go far with him anyway, out with the old in with the new. We might be able to get a QB if we trade into the 2nd like Landry or Dysert, i'd prefer at a young QB at this point, no way we can build a entire defense and fix the running game in one offseason and Palmer needs a complete team to win games.


I have no problem at all if Palmer wants to retire. Any player that doesn't want play or be a Raider GTFO. Hopefully he would do this right before the 2013 to ensure that the Raiders would get Clowney in 2014. That's a transcendent player you can build a defense around for a decade.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
bitty wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
bitty wrote:
I got a feeling that Palmer will retire after this season.


What a slap in the face that would be. With so many issues on the roster, having to address the #1 position on the field in the offseason sound like hell.

Not exactly the best class of QBs either.


He wanted to retire last year and he's just getting killed out there unless the Raiders do something to keep him. Like asking him what OC he wants.

I don't see them playing.

That was my biggest fear coming in to this year.
Well, he is a quitter and we won't go far with him anyway, out with the old in with the new. We might be able to get a QB if we trade into the 2nd like Landry or Dysert, i'd prefer at a young QB at this point, no way we can build a entire defense and fix the running game in one offseason and Palmer needs a complete team to win games.


I have no problem at all if Palmer wants to retire. Any player that doesn't want play or be a Raider GTFO. Hopefully he would do this right before the 2013 to ensure that the Raiders would get Clowney in 2014. That's a transcendent player you can build a defense around for a decade.
Who is clowney?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nodisrespect wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
bitty wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
bitty wrote:
I got a feeling that Palmer will retire after this season.


What a slap in the face that would be. With so many issues on the roster, having to address the #1 position on the field in the offseason sound like hell.

Not exactly the best class of QBs either.


He wanted to retire last year and he's just getting killed out there unless the Raiders do something to keep him. Like asking him what OC he wants.

I don't see them playing.

That was my biggest fear coming in to this year.
Well, he is a quitter and we won't go far with him anyway, out with the old in with the new. We might be able to get a QB if we trade into the 2nd like Landry or Dysert, i'd prefer at a young QB at this point, no way we can build a entire defense and fix the running game in one offseason and Palmer needs a complete team to win games.


I have no problem at all if Palmer wants to retire. Any player that doesn't want play or be a Raider GTFO. Hopefully he would do this right before the 2013 to ensure that the Raiders would get Clowney in 2014. That's a transcendent player you can build a defense around for a decade.
Who is clowney?


Jadeveon Clowney. Unreal DE out of South Carolina.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind getting Dysert in round 3 if we can.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2014 has 2 non QB's that you can build a unit around, Marqise Lee/Clowney. Both of them are monsters
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrashMan510 wrote:
2014 has 2 non QB's that you can build a unit around, Marqise Lee/Clowney. Both of them are monsters


Lee is a beast but he has diva written all over him. Calvin Johnson is a super rare find.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dennis Allen wrote:
On the message at halftime: “Well, the message was to do your job and we came out in the third quarter and we had a communication error and gave up a touchdown play early in the third quarter. At the end of the day, it’s my job to make sure this team is ready to play. It’s my job to make sure that we execute our jobs on the football field. We didn’t do that today. That ultimately lies with me and I’ve got to do a better job of getting our team ready to play.”

On if he was pleased with anything: “Well I’d have to look long and hard about things that pleased me. When you lose a game like that there’s not a lot of positives. I thought there’s some things that we did well, but really, when you really look at it, we weren’t good enough.”

On if there are scheme changes on defense: “We’re going to look at anything we can do to be better. At the end of the day, we can’t have the mental mistakes. So we have to look at why are we having those mental mistakes and whatever we have to do to try to get that corrected we’ve got to do.”


Matt Shaugnessy wrote:
On the mood of the team: “We don’t quit, if that’s what you’re asking. This team is together, and we will correct things and move forward. Crap like that doesn’t happen here.”

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:


Matt Shaugnessy wrote:
On the mood of the team: “We don’t quit, if that’s what you’re asking. This team is together, and we will correct things and move forward. Crap like that doesn’t happen here.”



Sure it doesnt Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dante9876 wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:


Matt Shaugnessy wrote:
On the mood of the team: “We don’t quit, if that’s what you’re asking. This team is together, and we will correct things and move forward. Crap like that doesn’t happen here.”



Sure it doesnt Rolling Eyes


Regardless of how much they suck, I agree with him in saying they don't quit, they have actually showed a lot of fight this season. Yesterday may have been a different story, but if they did "quit" it was when the game was clearly out of reach. And I mean, what do you expect him to say lol?
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