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[SouthwestSteel]

I considered putting this in the game day thread, but it seems to warrant its own, since it is a long running debate:

[KJtheWicked]

Since Ben is OUR QB, I gotta go with Ben. Can't go wrong either way though. Eli is top notch as well.

[at23steelers]

Only reason I'd side with Big Ben slightly on this is because he turns the ball over less. Maybe not early on in his career, but he's making less and less dumb mistakes. Might have to do with the improvement of our offensive line's pass blocking too. Pretty equal though.

[Dcash4]

Obviously the answer is Rivers

Honestly, you cant go wrong with either. I think Ben fits perfectly with the Steelers. Tough, gritty QB who takes a beating and keeps on trucking - just seems fitting for Pittsburgh.

Unless over the rest of their careers something drasticly changes, I dont think there will ever really be a right or wrong answer to whos better.

[FourThreeMafia]

Let the debate BEGIN?

The debate has been going on since 2004 and will keep going unitl they retire.

3 years ago, I wouldve said Ben easily.

Now...they are neck and neck. Eli has become much more consistent and is a much better QB these days.

Ill take Ben for two main reasons...a) Im a Steeler fan, and b) Ben fits our style of play more than Eli (although our style of play changes more every year)

In terms of quality, though...they are on the same level.

Sadly, both are mere ants to the most talented QB in the league, Phillip Rivers.
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[stefan52268]

It's very close pretty much a push. I would give Ben a slight edge only because I'm a Steelers fan and he fits our Offense a bit better.

I wouldn't complain if either were my QB though.
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[Bobikus]

Eli and Ben are pretty much neck and neck right NOW, but I think Ben's easily been the better QB overall from 04-now.
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[stillersenat]

[JustPlainNasty]

I love what Ben & Haley are doing this year. I would say that Eli surpassed Ben over the past couple of years in development but this year shows that Ben can do the little things that make you a great qb, that move the ball and control the clock.
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[Steelerspower]

There's no wrong answer

Both are winners, very good leader and they will be in HOF when their career will be over
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[at23steelers]

[Bobikus]

Still TBD on that trade I think. Either player was notable in 04-05 and Rivers was clearly better from 06-10. If 11-12 Rivers is what he remains then Giants won the trade in the long term though.
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[Steelerspower]

The Giants have already easily won this trade

Eli is better than Rivers in the playoffs, especially on the road

Yes, the Giants have given the first round choice in 2005, but the Giants had at least three very good players in 2005 which has helped the Giants to win two Super Bowl
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[Bobikus]

As of now the Chargers still got an equal or better deal in the trade up to this point since Rivers has been the better player for the majority of the span, and they got decent play from the other picks/players for various amounts of time. That the Chargers weren't a good enough team regardless to get that team to the Super Bowl is a separate issue from the value of the trade.
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