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vike daddy

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 82974
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:30 am Post subject: Jared Allen, what up? |
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Since entering the league in 2004, Jared Allen has collected 107 sacks, more than any player. He's led the NFL in sacks twice -- no player in league history has done that three times -- and he's a lock to record the second-most sacks by any player through his first nine seasons, trailing only the great Reggie White.
Allen: "This league is built on what have you done for me lately. No matter what you did the year before, you've got to come out and do it again or otherwise you're really no value to anybody. There are certain things I can control. I can control how good of condition I'm in and I can control wanting it more than the other guy. If I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get the quarterback, if I'm willing to do whatever it takes to beat my guy, I'm going to win more than I lose. I'm not a blazing fast guy. I'm not an overpowering guy. I'm a leverage-technique guy. That's how I rush. If my technique is better than yours, I will win the majority of the time. You've just got to know your strengths."
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Everson Griffen: “We can be special. But it’s up to us.” |
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Klomp 
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Klomp 
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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I was shocked to hear that JA now has recorded a sack in 5 consecutive games. _________________
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Nozizaki 
Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 3334 Location: The State of Orlando
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, he really seemed to be having a down year, but he has picked up his play lately, I guess? He always has a monster game where he gets multiple sacks late in the season. _________________
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Nbanflguy
Joined: 16 Jan 2011 Posts: 770 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I think it shows how good Jared is when he has 6 sacks in 7 games and a majority of people including me feel like he is not having a good year. _________________ "Friends dont let friends be Packer fans"
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vikingsrule 
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 52626 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes!
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Nbanflguy wrote: | Yeah I think it shows how good Jared is when he has 6 sacks in 7 games and a majority of people including me feel like he is not having a good year. |
Agreed, all the attention is going to Watt and Matthews now. Allen is still having a steady year. |
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LostRoadStone 
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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My problem with Allen is that his sacks are coming on 1st or 2nd down. He's not getting the pressure that we need him to on 3rd down when it counts. _________________
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vikingsrule 
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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LostRoadStone wrote: | My problem with Allen is that his sacks are coming on 1st or 2nd down. He's not getting the pressure that we need him to on 3rd down when it counts. |
I would guess that might have a lot to do with the offensive design. I would anticipate that on third down, most teams expect the Vikes pass rushers to tee off so they might call more 3 step drops and might use an extra TE as a blocker. |
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Lil Uno 
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PurpleMugen 
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 4065 Location: Rutgers University
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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^That injury has to be playing a role. I still don't think he's having a particularly down year. We saw him have a legendary year last year, so the bar is rather high for this season. By season's end we will probably look more favorably upon his performance. _________________
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[UMN] 
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 13302 Location: Desolation Row
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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PurpleMugen wrote: | ^That injury has to be playing a role. I still don't think he's having a particularly down year. We saw him have a legendary year last year, so the bar is rather high for this season. By season's end we will probably look more favorably upon his performance. |
for the amount of money he is making it is absolutely reasonable to say this is a down year. He gets the occasional sack, but he isn't getting as many hurries as in previous years and makes zero plays against the run.
Now the injury is clearly a factor here, but regardless this is a down year. _________________ From the fool’s gold mouthpiece the hollow horn,
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PurpleMugen 
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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[UMN] wrote: | PurpleMugen wrote: | ^That injury has to be playing a role. I still don't think he's having a particularly down year. We saw him have a legendary year last year, so the bar is rather high for this season. By season's end we will probably look more favorably upon his performance. |
for the amount of money he is making it is absolutely reasonable to say this is a down year. He gets the occasional sack, but he isn't getting as many hurries as in previous years and makes zero plays against the run.
Now the injury is clearly a factor here, but regardless this is a down year. |
I can agree with that. What I'm trying to say is that he's not having a particularly down year. For his usual standards, it has not been a memorable one, but he is still fairly consistent with the sack production, and he has made some stops in the run game from time to time. I can definitely see where you're coming from, though. It would have been great to have him excel the way he has in past years. _________________
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ArcticNorseman
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 2987 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, yeah ... it comes out that he's got an injury and boom -- 1.5 sacks.
He should've had another earlier in the game . . . that said, anyone notice that opponents typically change their game plan to short drops and quick passes when playing the Vikes?
Allen gets more doubles and chips than anyone in the league -- he's going to have less production regarding sack numbers if you look at those two aspects of the game.  |
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