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holyghost


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not in favor of Pryor replacing Palmer any time soon, not at all.

But I think it is dumb not to activate him and have him see a package every game. He has some unique skills that could be used. Anything to score some more points, give a spark, challenge an opposing defense. Anything to help win. He is no kind of passer, but he's not without some talents..

Is our 45th man so important that it can't be Pryor?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holyghost wrote:
I am not in favor of Pryor replacing Palmer any time soon, not at all.

But I think it is dumb not to activate him and have him see a package every game. He has some unique skills that could be used. Anything to score some more points, give a spark, challenge an opposing defense. Anything to help win. He is no kind of passer, but he's not without some talents..

Is our 45th man so important that it can't be Pryor?


+1 I completely agree.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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this team sucks... We have no hope in the short term.. It's time to throw Pryor out there. You act like being a NFL QB is like becoming head of the Senate.... Pryor is just a football player...It's time to bring some life back to the team...





PRYOR, PRYOR, PRYOR, PRYO R


Please shut up. Like seriously. Shut up.

Oakland is in bad enough shape without putting a QB who isn't a sound passer under center. Some gimmick plays, sure. Starting QB. There is a reason he is #3 on the list.


I won't SHUT UP! I SHOULDN'T SHUT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THEN ME... He's number 3 because he is raw, but he might have the most to offer this team. Only one way for a player to get experience. Pryor is closer to Cam Newton then Tim Tebow. He isn't a lame duck out there... All he does is move the chains


LOL. Just shut up already.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
holyghost wrote:
I am not in favor of Pryor replacing Palmer any time soon, not at all.

But I think it is dumb not to activate him and have him see a package every game. He has some unique skills that could be used. Anything to score some more points, give a spark, challenge an opposing defense. Anything to help win. He is no kind of passer, but he's not without some talents..

Is our 45th man so important that it can't be Pryor?


+1 I completely agree.


Same here. The Wildcat can be effective when used sparingly, and he has the perfect skill set for that type of play. It doesnt need to be Wildcat specifically, but there has got to be some way to get him on the field once in a while. Pryor, McFadden and Reece in the same package inside the 10 could be a good thing- 3 potential runners, two potential passers (not sure whos a better thrower- McFadden or Pryor Laughing ), and lots of speed.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZoomWaffle wrote:
Darkness wrote:
holyghost wrote:
I am not in favor of Pryor replacing Palmer any time soon, not at all.

But I think it is dumb not to activate him and have him see a package every game. He has some unique skills that could be used. Anything to score some more points, give a spark, challenge an opposing defense. Anything to help win. He is no kind of passer, but he's not without some talents..

Is our 45th man so important that it can't be Pryor?


+1 I completely agree.


Same here. The Wildcat can be effective when used sparingly, and he has the perfect skill set for that type of play. It doesnt need to be Wildcat specifically, but there has got to be some way to get him on the field once in a while. Pryor, McFadden and Reece in the same package inside the 10 could be a good thing- 3 potential runners, two potential passers (not sure whos a better thrower- McFadden or Pryor Laughing ), and lots of speed.


I'm surprised we haven't seen DMC make one pass yet. He did it all the time at Arkanas.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chali21 wrote:
ZoomWaffle wrote:
Darkness wrote:
holyghost wrote:
I am not in favor of Pryor replacing Palmer any time soon, not at all.

But I think it is dumb not to activate him and have him see a package every game. He has some unique skills that could be used. Anything to score some more points, give a spark, challenge an opposing defense. Anything to help win. He is no kind of passer, but he's not without some talents..

Is our 45th man so important that it can't be Pryor?


+1 I completely agree.


Same here. The Wildcat can be effective when used sparingly, and he has the perfect skill set for that type of play. It doesnt need to be Wildcat specifically, but there has got to be some way to get him on the field once in a while. Pryor, McFadden and Reece in the same package inside the 10 could be a good thing- 3 potential runners, two potential passers (not sure whos a better thrower- McFadden or Pryor Laughing ), and lots of speed.


I'm surprised we haven't seen DMC make one pass yet. He did it all the time at Arkanas.


iirc everytime we tried wildcat with bush or dmac it failed.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Chali21 wrote:
ZoomWaffle wrote:
Darkness wrote:
holyghost wrote:
I am not in favor of Pryor replacing Palmer any time soon, not at all.

But I think it is dumb not to activate him and have him see a package every game. He has some unique skills that could be used. Anything to score some more points, give a spark, challenge an opposing defense. Anything to help win. He is no kind of passer, but he's not without some talents..

Is our 45th man so important that it can't be Pryor?


+1 I completely agree.


Same here. The Wildcat can be effective when used sparingly, and he has the perfect skill set for that type of play. It doesnt need to be Wildcat specifically, but there has got to be some way to get him on the field once in a while. Pryor, McFadden and Reece in the same package inside the 10 could be a good thing- 3 potential runners, two potential passers (not sure whos a better thrower- McFadden or Pryor Laughing ), and lots of speed.


I'm surprised we haven't seen DMC make one pass yet. He did it all the time at Arkanas.


iirc everytime we tried wildcat with bush or dmac it failed.


or even use him like how the chargers used LT.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holyghost wrote:
I am not in favor of Pryor replacing Palmer any time soon, not at all.

But I think it is dumb not to activate him and have him see a package every game. He has some unique skills that could be used. Anything to score some more points, give a spark, challenge an opposing defense. Anything to help win. He is no kind of passer, but he's not without some talents..

Is our 45th man so important that it can't be Pryor?


Just playing devil's advocate, but how can the staff justify learning something new when they don't have the basic package down?

That being said I agree with you.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silver_surfer wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
silver_surfer wrote:
this team sucks... We have no hope in the short term.. It's time to throw Pryor out there. You act like being a NFL QB is like becoming head of the Senate.... Pryor is just a football player...It's time to bring some life back to the team...





PRYOR, PRYOR, PRYOR, PRYO R


Please shut up. Like seriously. Shut up.

Oakland is in bad enough shape without putting a QB who isn't a sound passer under center. Some gimmick plays, sure. Starting QB. There is a reason he is #3 on the list.


I won't SHUT UP! I SHOULDN'T SHUT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THEN ME... He's number 3 because he is raw, but he might have the most to offer this team. Only one way for a player to get experience. Pryor is closer to Cam Newton then Tim Tebow. He isn't a lame duck out there... All he does is move the chains



Hahahaha



He said Tim Tebow....

Used him as an argument to start Pryor even....

Love it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something for the Pryor heads
http://trainlikeaproapp.com/
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Raiders are like 2-8, yeah... Put in Pryor.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Django wrote:
Something for the Pryor heads
http://trainlikeaproapp.com/


Didn't Pryor throw a couple picks in there? How are you going to make sales like that? or were those the best ones?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should definitely be activated, remember how fleet footed he looked against Detroit in preseason - personally I'd put in at no 2 over ML
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Django wrote:
Something for the Pryor heads
http://trainlikeaproapp.com/



Jesus, he looks terrible.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
Django wrote:
Something for the Pryor heads
http://trainlikeaproapp.com/



Jesus, he looks terrible.


I honestly saw a marked difference between his accuracy when either he was on the move or the target was on the move, as opposed to when he had to sit as if in a pocket. His worst series was when he was throwing over the dummies, standing still. Which means he is not throwing instinctually in that circumstance, but rather trying to hit a spot from a pocket stance.

Peyton Manning has his stutter step style which he uses as a mechanical device to set his feet properly throw after throw after throw. Pryor, if watched in the preseason, has very lazy feet in the pocket. He needs to enable some sort of habit that keeps his feet moving and serves as a reminder to his mechanics to set his feet and be the trigger to a repetitive and proper throwing motion. With his feet moving, he displays a measure of natural accuracy.

If he can engage his feet in the pocket the way that he naturally does when he is on the move, he can be far more accurate overall. Because he is accurate when on the move, as seen in this video and the handful of good throws from the preseason. The best of them were thrown on the move, ala the 2nd Criner TD.

If I can figure this out from 1 preseason game and a 3 minute training video, his goddamn QB coach better figure it out and get something done about it. It better have already been figured out months ago. If he is shaped properly, he has both athleticism and potential. If he is neglected, he'll never be an NFL passer.
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