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Babylon
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 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: Bounty Suspensions have been readminstered |
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https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/255770320559034368
Goodell upholds Vilma suspension but keeps game checks on PUP; Fujita reduced 3 games to 1, Hargrove reduced 8 to 7, Smith stays 4
So, basically no significant changes at all, as most suspected.
In case you were wondering, now this will go right back to Goodell on appeal, then back to the courts.
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Ketchup
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Now Vilma and crew will go back to the courts to try and get the suspensions null and voided. Just a big bunch of garbage that needs to be over with. Tired of hearing about it to be honest.
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Steelerspower
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what? 
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Babylon
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To update what this means:
Hargrove wasn't signed by anyone, so his suspension if being effectively served right now. He could be signed tomorrow and only have to serve the remaining two games.
Fujita is suspended for a game once his appeal is denied, same with Smith but for four games.
Vilma is also serving his through his time on the PUP, but oddly will keep his game checks (weird)? So his suspension will be short as well when he finally does bite it.
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...sigh. This again. Can't seem to keep no peace, yo. 
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Good. It shouldn't have been overturned in the first place.
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Babylon
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Statements and letters from the NFL to the players involved:
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2012/10/nfl_releases_statement_on_ruli.html
The money quote:
| Quote: | | "The facts, however, conclusively undermine this characterization. For example, in a game between the Saints and the New York Giants in 2009, a Saints player earned a reward for a cart-off of Giants running back Brandon Jacobs, who left the game with a shoulder injury. After a 2010 game against the Carolina Panthers, the Saints defensive unit was commended for forcing '3 CART-OFFS! 1 already placed on I.R.!' In that game, three Carolina players were seriously injured: running backs Jonathan Stewart and Tyrell Sutton, who were literally carted off the field with a head/neck and ankle injury, respectively, and quarterback Matt Moore, who was later placed on injured reserve, unable to return for the remainder of the season, with a torn labrum. These all satisfied Coach Williams' definition of cart-offs: 'big hits that resulted in an opposing player leaving the game due to the hit (for example, having the "wind knocked out of him" or being shaken up or injured in some other way)....' He added that 'rewarding cart-offs and knockouts...could encourage players to injure opposing players [and] I now understand that someone could be seriously injured as a result....' |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Babylon wrote: | Statements and letters from the NFL to the players involved:
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2012/10/nfl_releases_statement_on_ruli.html
The money quote:
| Quote: | | "The facts, however, conclusively undermine this characterization. For example, in a game between the Saints and the New York Giants in 2009, a Saints player earned a reward for a cart-off of Giants running back Brandon Jacobs, who left the game with a shoulder injury. After a 2010 game against the Carolina Panthers, the Saints defensive unit was commended for forcing '3 CART-OFFS! 1 already placed on I.R.!' In that game, three Carolina players were seriously injured: running backs Jonathan Stewart and Tyrell Sutton, who were literally carted off the field with a head/neck and ankle injury, respectively, and quarterback Matt Moore, who was later placed on injured reserve, unable to return for the remainder of the season, with a torn labrum. These all satisfied Coach Williams' definition of cart-offs: 'big hits that resulted in an opposing player leaving the game due to the hit (for example, having the "wind knocked out of him" or being shaken up or injured in some other way)....' He added that 'rewarding cart-offs and knockouts...could encourage players to injure opposing players [and] I now understand that someone could be seriously injured as a result....' |
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Williams is such a scum bag. Did he seriously not see this being an issue?
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| justice is served (again) |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Babylon wrote: | To update what this means:
Hargrove wasn't signed by anyone, so his suspension if being effectively served right now. He could be signed tomorrow and only have to serve the remaining two games.
Fujita is suspended for a game once his appeal is denied, same with Smith but for four games.
Vilma is also serving his through his time on the PUP, but oddly will keep his game checks (weird)? So his suspension will be short as well when he finally does bite it. |
Incorrect on Hargrove. The suspensions were revoked. He doesn't get credit for "serving" his suspension until starting now. Weeks 1-5 don't count.
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vike daddy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Vilma should just admit his involvement and move on. i think all the fans already have.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| spilltray wrote: | | Babylon wrote: | To update what this means:
Hargrove wasn't signed by anyone, so his suspension if being effectively served right now. He could be signed tomorrow and only have to serve the remaining two games.
Fujita is suspended for a game once his appeal is denied, same with Smith but for four games.
Vilma is also serving his through his time on the PUP, but oddly will keep his game checks (weird)? So his suspension will be short as well when he finally does bite it. |
Incorrect on Hargrove. The suspensions were revoked. He doesn't get credit for "serving" his suspension until starting now. Weeks 1-5 don't count. |
I could be wrong but I thought your suspensions didn't come into effect until you were actually signed to a team. At least that was the case with Hollis Thomas and Javon Walker. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| kenney wrote: | | Good. It shouldn't have been overturned in the first place. |
Agree.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| BenchSanchez wrote: | | kenney wrote: | | Good. It shouldn't have been overturned in the first place. |
Agree. |
It was never "overturned". IT was more of a null and void because Goodell was poor in differentiating what was pay for performance and what was pay to injury. Pay for performance is not his jurisdiction, that would be a salary cap violation. Pay for injury is his territory. He didn't differentiate them in his write ups well enough so it was null and voided. That's way different from being overturned. There was never a doubt they would be re-administered after the paper work was re-done.
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