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Nabbs4u
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| marky_b27 wrote: | | Eagles_808 wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | Vick will never stop fumbling. He's always been a fumbler, relative to his position. It's now even more evident because he is slower and easier to get a good hit on. |
Every time Vick has the ball in his hands, which is every offensive play, I get a little too nervous. It's crazy how much more careful McNabb was with the football, even though he had his obvious limitations as well. |
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You joke but I remember a vast majority in this forum whinning about just that. Mcnabb was smart enough not to force things to live another day and was crucified constantly for it for "not trusting his WR to make a play and being inaccurate". Vicks the polar opposite. Have to live with the consequences for that mentality. It's not like we have Megatron, Fitz, or AJ to just chuck the ball up to and prey.
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| Nabbs4u wrote: | | marky_b27 wrote: | | Eagles_808 wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | Vick will never stop fumbling. He's always been a fumbler, relative to his position. It's now even more evident because he is slower and easier to get a good hit on. |
Every time Vick has the ball in his hands, which is every offensive play, I get a little too nervous. It's crazy how much more careful McNabb was with the football, even though he had his obvious limitations as well. |
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You joke but I remember a vast majority in this forum whinning about just that. Mcnabb was smart enough not to force things to live another day and was crucified constantly for it for "not trusting his WR to make a play and being inaccurate". Vicks the polar opposite. Have to live with the consequences for that mentality. It's not like we have Megatron, Fitz, or AJ to just chuck the ball up to and prey. |
I never whined about McNabb, He did the smart thing. Either the receiver catches it, or no one does - it's smart play, like sliding.
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| Phire wrote: | | And he doesn't switch hands when running the sideline. Elementary technique is to hold the ball on the outside arm so if it comes loose it goes out of bounds. |
Not all RB do that at all time, it also slows you down.
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Phire wrote: | | And he doesn't switch hands when running the sideline. Elementary technique is to hold the ball on the outside arm so if it comes loose it goes out of bounds. |
Not all RB do that at all time, it also slows you down. |
They should, though. Just like players should use their chin straps, but they don't. Just because they don't do something it doesn't make it proper technique. Like Asante wouldn't wrap up.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Eagles_808 wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | Vick will never stop fumbling. He's always been a fumbler, relative to his position. It's now even more evident because he is slower and easier to get a good hit on. |
Every time Vick has the ball in his hands, which is every offensive play, I get a little too nervous. It's crazy how much more careful McNabb was with the football, even though he had his obvious limitations as well. |
This is why you have to turn him into a game manager like Alex Smith. You take Jason Avant out of the game and insert Damaris Johnson so that he can do some of the things in the slot that a handful of other short WRs are doing around the NFL. McCoy, Damaris, Havili, and Celek then become your go to players with Desean, Maclin, and Vick being your big play higher risk guys. This all will create a more sustained offense with fewer turnovers. The Eagles have proven that they can't score even when attempting to implement the downfield offense. So the Eagles need to go full conservative at this point to at least be a low scoring team with low turnovers instead of a low scoring team with high turnovers. |
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Yep Avant has 0 YAC on the season, take him out of the lineup
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| Phire wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Phire wrote: | | And he doesn't switch hands when running the sideline. Elementary technique is to hold the ball on the outside arm so if it comes loose it goes out of bounds. |
Not all RB do that at all time, it also slows you down. |
They should, though. Just like players should use their chin straps, but they don't. Just because they don't do something it doesn't make it proper technique. Like Asante wouldn't wrap up. |
I agree, but there's a reason why Shady normally haven't fumbled a lot. He puts it up tight when contact is near, he have a sixth sense for that. (Probably jinxed Shady into 3 fumbles against Lions).
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| LOLKevinKolb wrote: | | Yep Avant has 0 YAC on the season, take him out of the lineup |
How many 3rd down reception? But agreed, you have a 4th down for a reason.
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | LOLKevinKolb wrote: | | Yep Avant has 0 YAC on the season, take him out of the lineup |
How many 3rd down reception? But agreed, you have a 4th down for a reason. |
2TDs 37 games... |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Phire wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Phire wrote: | | And he doesn't switch hands when running the sideline. Elementary technique is to hold the ball on the outside arm so if it comes loose it goes out of bounds. |
Not all RB do that at all time, it also slows you down. |
They should, though. Just like players should use their chin straps, but they don't. Just because they don't do something it doesn't make it proper technique. Like Asante wouldn't wrap up. |
I agree, but there's a reason why Shady normally haven't fumbled a lot. He puts it up tight when contact is near, he have a sixth sense for that. (Probably jinxed Shady into 3 fumbles against Lions). |
That and they can't catch him 
Plus Shady has fumbled this season, I hate how he holds the ball. It is super unsecured and it's only a matter of time before defenders start swatting at it.
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| PowerElite wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | LOLKevinKolb wrote: | | Yep Avant has 0 YAC on the season, take him out of the lineup |
How many 3rd down reception? But agreed, you have a 4th down for a reason. |
2TDs 37 games... |
I think that's the reason he's a role player. I agree, he's not good at gaining separation, but he catches almost anything thrown at him.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| PowerElite wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | LOLKevinKolb wrote: | | Yep Avant has 0 YAC on the season, take him out of the lineup |
How many 3rd down reception? But agreed, you have a 4th down for a reason. |
2TDs 37 games... |
im glad you have more then one argument against avant.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | LOLKevinKolb wrote: | | Yep Avant has 0 YAC on the season, take him out of the lineup |
How many 3rd down reception? But agreed, you have a 4th down for a reason. |
2TDs 37 games... |
I think that's the reason he's a role player. I agree, he's not good at gaining separation, but he catches almost anything thrown at him. |
The slot receiver isn't a role player in our offense, he's a starter.
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| ninjapirate wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | LOLKevinKolb wrote: | | Yep Avant has 0 YAC on the season, take him out of the lineup |
How many 3rd down reception? But agreed, you have a 4th down for a reason. |
2TDs 37 games... |
I think that's the reason he's a role player. I agree, he's not good at gaining separation, but he catches almost anything thrown at him. |
The slot receiver isn't a role player in our offense, he's a starter. |
Wrong wording, he's our what 5th or 6th option in our offense.
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | ninjapirate wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | LOLKevinKolb wrote: | | Yep Avant has 0 YAC on the season, take him out of the lineup |
How many 3rd down reception? But agreed, you have a 4th down for a reason. |
2TDs 37 games... |
I think that's the reason he's a role player. I agree, he's not good at gaining separation, but he catches almost anything thrown at him. |
The slot receiver isn't a role player in our offense, he's a starter. |
Wrong wording, he's our what 5th or 6th option in our offense. |
If he's out there he should be making a difference.
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