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Hieroglyphics
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Elite
San Francisco 49ers
Houston Texans
Great
Bears
Cardinals - Albeit very raw
Very Good
Seahawks
Vikings
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Falastine
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| Hieroglyphics wrote: | Elite
San Francisco 49ers
Houston Texans
Great
Bears
Cardinals - Albeit very raw
Very Good
Seahawks
Vikings
Eagles |
6 of the 7 teams you listed are NFC teams. Pretty interesting.
Kinda weird not seeing at least one of the Steelers or Ravens on a list like this.
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J-ALL-DAY
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| khodder wrote: | One thing to Note; The Buffalo Bills this season in terms of points scored;
28 vs Jets
35 vs KC
24 vs CLE
28 vs NE
That is, through four weeks, 28.75 PPG.
They then came out this vs vs the 49ers and put up three points, three.
That 49ers defense has also held a pair of hihgly explosive offenses in the Packers and Lions to 22 and 19 points respectively. When you combine that with what they did last year and I have to put SF up the top still.
With the Texans you had a rookie in his first ever start so you are going to get a guy who is very nervous and not producting his best football (Seen it first hand, Arizona has played a rookie in week one each of the last three seasons), though the D did pretty well vs the Phins. They only really established QB they have faced in Peyton Manning they gave up 23 points and that included 89 and 80 yard touchdown drives.
I still like Arizona on the same level as Seattle and Chicago on a tier just below the Texans and 49ers, but whatever they decided to do over their past two games they need to stop and go back to what worked in weeks 1-3. They started giving up big plays all over the place (44 yards to Amendola, 51 yards to Givens, 80 yards to Hartline (Blown Coverage), 57 yards to Hartline)
But before they they had dealt well with both the Patriots and the Eagles offensively.
Best defense in the league, I would not hestiate to go with the 49ers, behind them is a bit of a mixer that involves a good few teams. |
And GB had a punt return for a TD so they only scored two TDs against the Niners.
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jrry32
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I'll give you my verdict after we play San Fran. Came away from Arizona and Seattle feeling that both were still very good to great defenses but weren't as stout as Chicago's D.
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49ers Finest
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| Falastine wrote: | | Hieroglyphics wrote: | Elite
San Francisco 49ers
Houston Texans
Great
Bears
Cardinals - Albeit very raw
Very Good
Seahawks
Vikings
Eagles |
6 of the 7 teams you listed are NFC teams. Pretty interesting.
Kinda weird not seeing at least one of the Steelers or Ravens on a list like this. |
Good list.
Also 3/4 of the NFC west are listed.
I went with my 9ers. Can't wait to play ny and ne
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chpjns15
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| Hieroglyphics wrote: | Elite
San Francisco 49ers
Houston Texans
Great
Bears
Cardinals - Albeit very raw
Very Good
Seahawks
Vikings
Eagles |
My probably a little bi biased list goes:
Elite:
Seahawks
49ers
Texans
Great:
Bears
Cardinals
Very good:
Ravens
Eagles
Vikings
Steelers
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Nabbs4u
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| BlaqOptic wrote: | | I honestly think Philly is pretty damn good. Aside from Jackson and McCoy their entire offense sucks and puts them in bad spots yet they play good games. Got away with some DPI/DH calls today but still stifled the Steelers. I've yet to see an offense they haven't handled thus far this season. |
I couldn't imagine what this defense would look like or have produced the last 5 games had the offense not turned the ball over 13x?  I mean for as much praise people are throwing SF, Hou, (rightfully so), Sea, Chi, AZ, etc.... I wonder what they would have done if placed in the same circumstance? It's a shame really that the Eagles offense and defense can't seem to be able to play well at the same time. It's always a Either or with them. What thye are doing after constantly being handcuffed by TO is actually pretty amazing.
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jrry32
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| chpjns15 wrote: | | Hieroglyphics wrote: | Elite
San Francisco 49ers
Houston Texans
Great
Bears
Cardinals - Albeit very raw
Very Good
Seahawks
Vikings
Eagles |
My probably a little bi biased list goes:
Elite:
Seahawks
49ers
Texans
Great:
Bears
Cardinals
Very good:
Ravens
Eagles
Vikings
Steelers
(that was in order) |
No respect at all for the Rams?
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DetroitSpirit
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| jrry32 wrote: | | chpjns15 wrote: | | Hieroglyphics wrote: | Elite
San Francisco 49ers
Houston Texans
Great
Bears
Cardinals - Albeit very raw
Very Good
Seahawks
Vikings
Eagles |
My probably a little bi biased list goes:
Elite:
Seahawks
49ers
Texans
Great:
Bears
Cardinals
Very good:
Ravens
Eagles
Vikings
Steelers
(that was in order) |
No respect at all for the Rams? |
They're good, just not very good. |
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jrry32
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| DetroitSpirit wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | chpjns15 wrote: | | Hieroglyphics wrote: | Elite
San Francisco 49ers
Houston Texans
Great
Bears
Cardinals - Albeit very raw
Very Good
Seahawks
Vikings
Eagles |
My probably a little bi biased list goes:
Elite:
Seahawks
49ers
Texans
Great:
Bears
Cardinals
Very good:
Ravens
Eagles
Vikings
Steelers
(that was in order) |
No respect at all for the Rams? |
They're good, just not very good. |
They haven't given up a passing TD since week 2 and have given up a total of 2 all season. They have held Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall and Larry Fitzgerald all TD less.
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Tooki
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| If the Ravens (this year) are being called "Very good", I can call the Rams "very good" |
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jrry32
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| Tooki wrote: | | If the Ravens (this year) are being called "Very good", I can call the Rams "very good" |
Thank you.
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khodder
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| Nabbs4u wrote: | | I couldn't imagine what this defense would look like or have produced the last 5 games had the offense not turned the ball over 13x? I mean for as much praise people are throwing SF, Hou, (rightfully so), Sea, Chi, AZ, etc.... I wonder what they would have done if placed in the same circumstance? It's a shame really that the Eagles offense and defense can't seem to be able to play well at the same time. It's always a Either or with them. What thye are doing after constantly being handcuffed by TO is actually pretty amazing. |
The biggest issue I have with the Eagles D is that outside of facing Weeden week one, they have struggled to create turnovers, three created in four games since.
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Nabbs4u
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| khodder wrote: | | Nabbs4u wrote: | | I couldn't imagine what this defense would look like or have produced the last 5 games had the offense not turned the ball over 13x? I mean for as much praise people are throwing SF, Hou, (rightfully so), Sea, Chi, AZ, etc.... I wonder what they would have done if placed in the same circumstance? It's a shame really that the Eagles offense and defense can't seem to be able to play well at the same time. It's always a Either or with them. What thye are doing after constantly being handcuffed by TO is actually pretty amazing. |
The biggest issue I have with the Eagles D is that outside of facing Weeden week one, they have struggled to create turnovers, three created in four games since. |
I can understand that and it's a valid point. However when the opposing offense usually has a short field to work with it does make it a liitle harder to get those turn overs. It's not like teams are always starting from the 20 and having to go 80 to score when the Eagles ST can't seem to tackle and or TO lead teams to start from midfield. I'm not suggesting they are the best but given the situations they have been put in numerous times by TO or ST, it's amazing what they've done if people look closer. Give any of the other Defenses mentioned 13+ TO to dig out of and our inept tackling on ST and their numbers and being scored upon would be drastically different. I will add 3 of those 4 games you mentioned were against arguably top 10 QB like Eli, Ben and Flacco. Having none against Kolb there is no excuse, I do agree.
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texans_uk
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Khodder what was the score heading into the fourth quarter of the Broncos vs Texans game?
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