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FootballPhreak


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
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On the contrary. Alot of hardcore FFrs wait until the first weeks of the season. And they have a better idea of each players true value now and the ADPs are far more accurate than they were before the season started.

Wait. "Hardcore FFrs" wait until the first weeks are over, so they have a better understanding of who's legit and who isn't? Isn't that part of FF? If they need that "head start", I question how "hardcore" they are.

No, some of us enjoy that. But knowing every players "true value" makes the draft more intriguing to alot of people.


A lot of people who don't know football.

Hardly. Sounds like a comment meant to pump yourself up.

Eh. If you need to know how players are going to play before you draft them, you aren't really playing fantasy football.

That is what you like and how you prefer to play. That does not make it the better way.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id like to know who these "hardcore FFers" are.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Id like to know who these "hardcore FFers" are.

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Football fans who watch and care about fantasy football have done their leagues by now.

Have to ask Sllim.

According to Sllim and TL, if you don't do FF the way we do, then you don't know or care about football Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.

Hardcore FF guys are guys who read up and study. Guys who have sleepers nobody else is eying etc.

Not guys drafting after dust has settled.

My wife's office of women drafted after week 2. Half of them didn't know NY had two teams. Hardcore!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LionsFTW wrote:
Id like to know who these "hardcore FFers" are.

Sllim Pickens wrote:
Football fans who watch and care about fantasy football have done their leagues by now.

Have to ask Sllim.

According to Sllim and TL, if you don't do FF the way we do, then you don't know or care about football Shocked

Nah. Not the way we do, but the way that maintains the elements of risk and the unknown, two things that make fantasy football... fantasy football. Without those elements, it's just... far easier.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay, Amendola is hurt! Man this fantasy stuff is fun.

I wish we would have done the draft after this week. That way, I could be "hardcore" and avoid players injured during weeks 1-5. That makes me a better fantasy player.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yay, Amendola is hurt! Man this fantasy stuff is fun.

I wish we would have done the draft after this week. That way, I could be "hardcore" and avoid players injured during weeks 1-5. That makes me a better fantasy player.



Alfred Morris would be a steal now
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
Yay, Amendola is hurt! Man this fantasy stuff is fun.

I wish we would have done the draft after this week. That way, I could be "hardcore" and avoid players injured during weeks 1-5. That makes me a better fantasy player.



Alfred Morris would be a steal now

Yep. Someone would draft him early, and they would be smart... because... well... yeah. Hardcore.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
FootballPhreak wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
Id like to know who these "hardcore FFers" are.

Sllim Pickens wrote:
Football fans who watch and care about fantasy football have done their leagues by now.

Have to ask Sllim.

According to Sllim and TL, if you don't do FF the way we do, then you don't know or care about football Shocked

Nah. Not the way we do, but the way that maintains the elements of risk and the unknown, two things that make fantasy football... fantasy football. Without those elements, it's just... far easier.

So....the way you do it.

I got it. If it doesn't line up with the way you do it, then they are sissies. Won't forget that very important lesson.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So....the way you do it.

I got it. If it doesn't line up with the way you do it, then they are sissies. Won't forget that very important lesson.

Tee ball = hardcore. Baseball = not hardcore. The element of surprise and risk makes hardcore things... not hardcore.

PHREAK! ADMIT YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS!

*EDIT: not in a religious way.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
Yay, Amendola is hurt! Man this fantasy stuff is fun.

I wish we would have done the draft after this week. That way, I could be "hardcore" and avoid players injured during weeks 1-5. That makes me a better fantasy player.



Alfred Morris would be a steal now

Yep. Someone would draft him early, and they would be smart... because... well... yeah. Hardcore.


Hartline would go early too
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detfan782004 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
Yay, Amendola is hurt! Man this fantasy stuff is fun.

I wish we would have done the draft after this week. That way, I could be "hardcore" and avoid players injured during weeks 1-5. That makes me a better fantasy player.



Alfred Morris would be a steal now

Yep. Someone would draft him early, and they would be smart... because... well... yeah. Hardcore.


Hartline would go early too

Duh. He's fantasylegit.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FootballPhreak wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
FootballPhreak wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
Id like to know who these "hardcore FFers" are.

Sllim Pickens wrote:
Football fans who watch and care about fantasy football have done their leagues by now.

Have to ask Sllim.

According to Sllim and TL, if you don't do FF the way we do, then you don't know or care about football Shocked

Nah. Not the way we do, but the way that maintains the elements of risk and the unknown, two things that make fantasy football... fantasy football. Without those elements, it's just... far easier.

So....the way you do it.

I got it. If it doesn't line up with the way you do it, then they are sissies. Won't forget that very important lesson.


Not the way I do it. The way everyone other than a select few do it. And I never said it was wrong, and never said people have to do it like me, just that I don't trust their ADPs because I have seen who does their drafts late, and they are people who don't follow football very close.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And Doug Martin's ADP was higher because Richardson was hurt the last month of drafts.

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Where do you find ADP for just the last week?

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Not the way I do it. The way everyone other than a select few do it. And I never said it was wrong, and never said people have to do it like me, just that I don't trust their ADPs because I have seen who does their drafts late, and they are people who don't follow football very close.

Interesting.

First you didn't know there still were drafts. Now you've seen untrustworthy people that draft this late. Not to mention these ghost people are clear representations of the other 30000 involved in the ADP data.

No, I would DEFINITELY trust ADP right now as a representation of players values much more than much anything else. We now know these players' values and it would be well represented in a few thousand drafts.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADP FAILS to factor in so much. Scoring systems for one is major


Matthews has been rumored to be cut this offseason and already benched once for Jackie freaking Battle.

Yet his ADp is stupid high.

So many people do auto drafts too which AdP gets flawed because ESpN etc doesn't change rankings in draft
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