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nugpimpen


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to start into this... but Mangini IS a better coach.

Crappy gm and talent evaluator, but great and intelligent gameday coach
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
Not to start into this... but Mangini IS a better coach.

Crappy gm and talent evaluator, but great and intelligent gameday coach


except for making adjustments
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
Not to start into this... but Mangini IS a better coach.

Crappy gm and talent evaluator, but great and intelligent gameday coach


except for making adjustments


Give me mangini through the week and Gruden on Sunday.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
Not to start into this... but Mangini IS a better coach.

Crappy gm and talent evaluator, but great and intelligent gameday coach


except for making adjustments


Give me mangini through the week and Gruden on Sunday.



I still hold a huge grudge against Mangini for the worst 2nd round of the draft ever
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TeHDruiD


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're going to get the ball rolling this weekend after we upset the Giants. No I'm not kidding, I think we have a legit shot at taking these guys down. Not only is their secondary in shambles, but we've had 10 days to prepare for them as well. I expect an offensive explosion this week (from both teams obviously), but I give the edge to us late in the game with Richardson grinding the clock down

The morale of the win and the morale of getting our best defensive player back are going to have a snow ball effect on wins for us
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
Not to start into this... but Mangini IS a better coach.

Crappy gm and talent evaluator, but great and intelligent gameday coach


Unless he gets to have any say about offensive game planning or play decision. I can never forgive him for Brain Daboll.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mangini is a better coach than shurmur.... Just my opinion.

Browns will not win 6 games this season... Still opinion, but much closer to fact.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeHDruiD wrote:
We're going to get the ball rolling this weekend after we upset the Giants. No I'm not kidding, I think we have a legit shot at taking these guys down. Not only is their secondary in shambles, but we've had 10 days to prepare for them as well. I expect an offensive explosion this week (from both teams obviously), but I give the edge to us late in the game with Richardson grinding the clock down

The morale of the win and the morale of getting our best defensive player back are going to have a snow ball effect on wins for us


I may be the only one on here optimistic enough to say we are going to win 6 games. I'm not very optimistic about this Giants game though. Its only Wednesday so we have time to get healthier, but right now 4 of our 5 saftey are on the injury report and 3 did not practice today. The only healthy saftey is Eric Hagg who was benched already this year. We are one injury in the game from having a saftey duo of Eric Hagg and Johnson Bademosi, who plays more corner, with no one to spell them.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both teams are going to move the ball up and down the field, no doubt in my mind. What the offense needs to do is use the aggressiveness of the Giants DL against them. When Andy Reid finally decided to run the ball, the Eagles were easily gashing the DL because they never keep contain, they're always attacking

I dunno, call me crazy but I think we're upsetting them this week. Weeden over 300 passing yards, Richardson over 125 rushing yards. Greg Little makes a statement this game as well as Jordan Cameron
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeHDruiD wrote:
Both teams are going to move the ball up and down the field, no doubt in my mind. What the offense needs to do is use the aggressiveness of the Giants DL against them. When Andy Reid finally decided to run the ball, the Eagles were easily gashing the DL because they never keep contain, they're always attacking

I dunno, call me crazy but I think we're upsetting them this week. Weeden over 300 passing yards, Richardson over 125 rushing yards. Greg Little makes a statement this game as well as Jordan Cameron


Can I have some of your Kool-Aid Please???
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
Not to start into this... but Mangini IS a better coach.

Crappy gm and talent evaluator, but great and intelligent gameday coach


except for making adjustments


And Shurmur is good at making adjustments? We literally have hit rock bottom in terms of 1st quarter TDs and 2nd quarters scores vs the opposition...

Maybe teams are shellacking us so bad that THEY adjust their gameplan to a time kill approach against the browns in the second half being that they usually carry a 1+ TD leading after halftime.

PS - #MittforMerica
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see no more than 3 to 4 wins on our schedule. I hope I'm wrong about our win total, but it's obvious that we are the 4th best team in the AFC North. We've dug ourselves a nice 0-4 hole at this point. I'm thinking that the soonest that we get our first win is probably going to be when I see it in person in Indianapolis a few weeks from now. If we don't win that one, I'll honestly be surprised if we win before week 13 against the Raiders. I can't foresee a scenario where we don't pick in the top 3 in the 2013 draft. We have some potential on this team, but it's not a team that seems to know how to win, and the talent to win just isn't very developed.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfhunt wrote:
TeHDruiD wrote:
Both teams are going to move the ball up and down the field, no doubt in my mind. What the offense needs to do is use the aggressiveness of the Giants DL against them. When Andy Reid finally decided to run the ball, the Eagles were easily gashing the DL because they never keep contain, they're always attacking

I dunno, call me crazy but I think we're upsetting them this week. Weeden over 300 passing yards, Richardson over 125 rushing yards. Greg Little makes a statement this game as well as Jordan Cameron


Can I have some of your Kool-Aid Please???


You all can laugh, I'll be the first one in here on Sunday if we get blown out. But I truly feel we can win, which isn't something I'd say if Colt was the QB
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duke2056


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way we win 6 is if we have a repeat of a few years ago when we won our last few games, playing marginal teams when they had no chance at the playoffs.

If we have to play 12 more games where teams are playing for something, sorry, but we have NOOOOOOOOOO chance to win 6.
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BrownsDynasty


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we can win 6.

I also think it's very possible that we win 0.

This team is clearly better than last year's, we're just in the process of putting it all together. Maybe it's setting the bar too low but I really don't think win total is relevant for our development this year.
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