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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: RB Play Percentage: Powell 47, Williams 46 Reply with quote

You are reading that correctly, William Powell played more snaps yesterday than Ryan Williams did.

WOW.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew it, I said in the GDT thread it will be interesting to see the rb snap counts. Don't really have an explanation for it but maybe he's a better in pass pro and they felt more comfortable with him out there?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I knew it, I said in the GDT thread it will be interesting to see the rb snap counts. Don't really have an explanation for it but maybe he's a better in pass pro and they felt more comfortable with him out there?


Must be. That's not a good sign for Ryan going forward.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stchamp98 wrote:
11sanchez11 wrote:
I knew it, I said in the GDT thread it will be interesting to see the rb snap counts. Don't really have an explanation for it but maybe he's a better in pass pro and they felt more comfortable with him out there?


Must be. That's not a good sign for Ryan going forward.


Wasnt Ryan something like 4 for 18 early on? Need to feed him the rock early against STL and see if he can make people miss.

I still have hope for Williams and feel for him running behind this oline...

Then again we've gone up against some elite front 4s.

STL, Buffalo and Minny should help that.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've faced the top two rushing defenses in football in Miami and Seattle. New England is 7th and Philly is 12th.

That's tough sledding for any oline.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rams are 26th, BUffalo is 28th.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyV wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
11sanchez11 wrote:
I knew it, I said in the GDT thread it will be interesting to see the rb snap counts. Don't really have an explanation for it but maybe he's a better in pass pro and they felt more comfortable with him out there?


Must be. That's not a good sign for Ryan going forward.


Wasnt Ryan something like 4 for 18 early on? Need to feed him the rock early against STL and see if he can make people miss.

I still have hope for Williams and feel for him running behind this oline...


I agree with both points 100%.

Playing behind Powell just baffles me.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is weird. Powell only had two carries also, which was less than Williams, so the fact he played more more is indeed odd.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The answer here is incredibly simple adn three fold;

1 - Pass Protection, from what I have seen Powell is better.
2 - No Huddle, Ryan Williams was not involved in the no huddle sets.

And crucially and most importantly;

3 - Special Teams, We only ran 71 offensive plays. Unless Powell and Williams were on the field at the same time for a good 15-20 plays, Powell got a lot more reps on ST's than Williams. I think Powell would have been close to 20 ST's snaps and Williams close to 0.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
The answer here is incredibly simple adn three fold;

1 - Pass Protection, from what I have seen Powell is better.
2 - No Huddle, Ryan Williams was not involved in the no huddle sets.

And crucially and most importantly;

3 - Special Teams, We only ran 71 offensive plays. Unless Powell and Williams were on the field at the same time for a good 15-20 plays, Powell got a lot more reps on ST's than Williams. I think Powell would have been close to 20 ST's snaps and Williams close to 0.


Have to double check but Jurecki made it sound like these numbers were for the offense only.
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stchamp98 wrote:
Have to double check but Jurecki made it sound like these numbers were for the offense only.


If it was then we have had two RB's on the field for 22 snaps and only actually run the ball 15.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because running back Ryan Williams is not part of the no-huddle because of where he is in his development and William Powell does work in that package, Powell actually played more offensive snaps (34) than Williams (33) Sunday.

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2012/10/01/moving-on-with-a-short-week-and-other-notes/
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stchamp98 wrote:
Because running back Ryan Williams is not part of the no-huddle because of where he is in his development and William Powell does work in that package, Powell actually played more offensive snaps (34) than Williams (33) Sunday.

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2012/10/01/moving-on-with-a-short-week-and-other-notes/


That makes more sense. 13 ST's snaps seems a little light for Powell though had at least 6 on kickoffs, but that does make sense.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Powell was pass blocking all 2nd half

You could see him lose his helmet in one play.

Williams strength is not pass blocking, so he sits, fair enough to me.

Running the ball wasnt an option, due to the shoddy playcalling, pass blocking took precendence.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really surprise as Williams was never really a great pass blocker.
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