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Broadway Joe


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much for Maclin's breakout year.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broadway Joe wrote:
So much for Maclin's breakout year.


hes never gonna have a break out year with his injury problems. they are slowly dragging him down. that combined with our offense looking him over, not that they shouldnt. jackson stretches the field, celek gets the good yards, mccoy gets the flats, avant has the sure hands for important plays, and maclin gets lost in the wash.
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I don't understand most of that, but I can tell it's probably inaccurate.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eagles101 wrote:
avant has the sure hands for important plays, and maclin gets lost in the wash.


Every down is an important play. Where do they produce you guys at?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little early hating on a guy with 2 TD's and he have been banged up. [Joke about him being weak].
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PowerElite wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
avant has the sure hands for important plays, and maclin gets lost in the wash.


Every down is an important play. Where do they produce you guys at?


.....really...i mean really...are we going to do this little kid BS? i know every down is important but not all downs is an important down. i know its complicated because you have to realize theres two different meanings of thins that have the same words but please try and keep up.

but let me simplify it. on the plays we need to make a play, hes a good target to look at.
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I don't understand most of that, but I can tell it's probably inaccurate.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eagles101 wrote:
PowerElite wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
avant has the sure hands for important plays, and maclin gets lost in the wash.


Every down is an important play. Where do they produce you guys at?


.....really...i mean really...are we going to do this little kid BS? i know every down is important but not all downs is an important down. i know its complicated because you have to realize theres two different meanings of thins that have the same words but please try and keep up.

but let me simplify it. on the plays we need to make a play, hes a good target to look at.


How do you arbitrarily determine when the Eagles need to make a play? 2 TDs in 36 games. Get the hell out of here...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PowerElite wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
PowerElite wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
avant has the sure hands for important plays, and maclin gets lost in the wash.


Every down is an important play. Where do they produce you guys at?


.....really...i mean really...are we going to do this little kid BS? i know every down is important but not all downs is an important down. i know its complicated because you have to realize theres two different meanings of thins that have the same words but please try and keep up.

but let me simplify it. on the plays we need to make a play, hes a good target to look at.


How do you arbitrarily determine when the Eagles need to make a play? 2 TDs in 36 games. Get the hell out of here...


because im not a child...and i know that if its 3rd and 6 we need to make a play more then 1st and 10.

and i know its hard to understand because....you dont watch football? i actually dont know how this is hard to understand....but he doesnt get targets for tds because we have better options then him for the home run plays or in the redzone. and most teams usually dont rely on there 3rd stringer to get tds.


but please tell me who you would trade avant for that is not a number one or two wr....thats what i want to know...whos so much better?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and i know that if its 3rd and 6 we need to make a play more then 1st and 10.


Prove it with statistics that Jason Avant is getting it done this season on 3rd down.
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PowerElite wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
and i know that if its 3rd and 6 we need to make a play more then 1st and 10.


Prove it with statistics that Jason Avant is getting it done this season on 3rd down.


haha you give stats of last year to prove your point and now you want stats from this year to prove hes getting it done.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eagles101 wrote:
but please tell me who you would trade avant for that is not a number one or two wr....thats what i want to know...whos so much better?


Anyone with future upside? Avant is a good 4/5 IMO but not someone that should be in a starting line-up. I still believe that WR is a place of need after this season especially since McNutt didn't pan out.
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eagles101 wrote:
but please tell me who you would trade avant for that is not a number one or two wr....thats what i want to know...whos so much better?


Anyone with future upside? Avant is a good 4/5 IMO but not someone that should be in a starting line-up. I still believe that WR is a place of need after this season especially since McNutt didn't pan out.


thats just silly. getting a guy with possible upside, which i dont know any 3rd string or lower that have any real upside. and i wouldnt want to replace avant who is extremely reliable wr for one that might have some upside. i also would like names. i would love a wr that has a high upside for avant, i just cant think of any 3rd wrs that do. im sure there might a handful but no more then that.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eagles101 wrote:
Hockey5djh wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
but please tell me who you would trade avant for that is not a number one or two wr....thats what i want to know...whos so much better?


Anyone with future upside? Avant is a good 4/5 IMO but not someone that should be in a starting line-up. I still believe that WR is a place of need after this season especially since McNutt didn't pan out.


thats just silly. getting a guy with possible upside, which i dont know any 3rd string or lower that have any real upside. and i wouldnt want to replace avant who is extremely reliable wr for one that might have some upside. i also would like names. i would love a wr that has a high upside for avant, i just cant think of any 3rd wrs that do. im sure there might a handful but no more then that.


Randall Cobb over Donald Driver in Green Bay
Emmanuel Sanders over Jerrico Cotchery in Pittsburgh
Rueben Randle over Domenick Hixon in NY
Leonard Hankerson over Santana Moss in Washington
Alshon Jeffery over Earl Bennett in Chicago
Michael Floyd over Early Doucet in Arizona
Doug Baldwin over Braylon Edwards in Seattle

...enough name examples?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hockey5djh wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
Hockey5djh wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
but please tell me who you would trade avant for that is not a number one or two wr....thats what i want to know...whos so much better?


Anyone with future upside? Avant is a good 4/5 IMO but not someone that should be in a starting line-up. I still believe that WR is a place of need after this season especially since McNutt didn't pan out.


thats just silly. getting a guy with possible upside, which i dont know any 3rd string or lower that have any real upside. and i wouldnt want to replace avant who is extremely reliable wr for one that might have some upside. i also would like names. i would love a wr that has a high upside for avant, i just cant think of any 3rd wrs that do. im sure there might a handful but no more then that.


Randall Cobb over Donald Driver in Green Bay
Emmanuel Sanders over Jerrico Cotchery in Pittsburgh
Rueben Randle over Domenick Hixon in NY
Leonard Hankerson over Santana Moss in Washington
Alshon Jeffery over Earl Bennett in Chicago
Michael Floyd over Early Doucet in Arizona
Doug Baldwin over Braylon Edwards in Seattle

...enough name examples?


im sorry i dont understand the player over player? would you trade avant for both of those players?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eagles101 wrote:
Hockey5djh wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
Hockey5djh wrote:
eagles101 wrote:
but please tell me who you would trade avant for that is not a number one or two wr....thats what i want to know...whos so much better?


Anyone with future upside? Avant is a good 4/5 IMO but not someone that should be in a starting line-up. I still believe that WR is a place of need after this season especially since McNutt didn't pan out.


thats just silly. getting a guy with possible upside, which i dont know any 3rd string or lower that have any real upside. and i wouldnt want to replace avant who is extremely reliable wr for one that might have some upside. i also would like names. i would love a wr that has a high upside for avant, i just cant think of any 3rd wrs that do. im sure there might a handful but no more then that.


Randall Cobb over Donald Driver in Green Bay
Emmanuel Sanders over Jerrico Cotchery in Pittsburgh
Rueben Randle over Domenick Hixon in NY
Leonard Hankerson over Santana Moss in Washington
Alshon Jeffery over Earl Bennett in Chicago
Michael Floyd over Early Doucet in Arizona
Doug Baldwin over Braylon Edwards in Seattle

...enough name examples?


im sorry i dont understand the player over player? would you trade avant for both of those players?


I'm stating that these teams have a younger high upside player as their 3rd WR instead of the aging talent with little to no upside. Our current example would be Damaris Johnson over Jason Avant in Philadelphia but I don't have any faith in DJ's upside as a potential #1 or #2 WR unlike the examples I posted above.

I'm not sure where trading came in but yes, I would trade Avant for any one of the bolded players in the above examples in the blink of an eye.
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Difference between being talented and really good.. The one thing i have learned as a fan of the Draft and how the NFL works, its rare guys who get hurt a lot never ever dont get hurt and rarely are so epically talented that they can contribute so much in a handful of single efforts that it warrants there roster spot, its to violent and physical of a game, some humans freakishly can handle it or handle it better then some, other like most humans on the planet just cant.

Maclin is talented but by no means rare or epic, hes vastly overrated when he plays, he will block hard when hes the attacker to a opponent running away from him, but he gets checked and put in his place way to much by tougher more physically stronger defenders, its easy to get him and Jackson out of a game, Celek is the only receiver with a real back bone and he runs like a 4.78 and just sobered up off rum a hour ago in the lobby of the Linc.(our wide receiver core is weaker then bud light on a full stomach).. You dont know what body part of Maclin is going to fall off or where his chin is game to game, and he is not the epic player that when healthy you know will take a over a game, say like a Brian Westbrook who would be questionable to leg fallen off every week then would come in and embarrass the entire field and make every ones jobs easier. You cant bring a Black Lab to a Pitbull fight.
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