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| Do you currently believe Ryan Tannehill is the answer? |
| Yes, he is on the right track and just needs to develop with expirience. |
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Ice_Dude_2008
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| Why didn't I start Tannehill today =/ |
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phinmun
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| alant_8 wrote: | | Im liking a lot of what i see from Tannehill, but the lack of TD passes are a cause of concern, but it it him or our lack of difference makers? |
Well, twice in the redzone we went from throwing the ball around immediately into a run off the left side of our line which is our most dependable running play. Clearly, once the team gets to the redzone they are trying to get those 4 yard carries and conservative first downs that lead to 3rd and goal from the 2 or 3 yard line.
I don't blame them. The red zone is the hardest area of the field in which a QB can be asked to operate. The windows are very small and without great QB-WR communication and feel it's hard to think that we shouldn't dial it back just a little.
At some point we'll see them put the ball in Tannehill's hands on 1st and goal but not during the 1st month of the season. That's understandable.
The lack of dependable WRs that can out-leap defenders and snatch the ball hurts too. Bess and Hartline are our only 2 options at WR worth a darn and unfortunately neither one offers anything to Tannehill in the red zone because of their skill-sets. Those guys are wonderful WRs but they're built to move the chains and operate between the 20s. They aren't the type of WRs who'll get 7 or 8 TDs over the course of a season. Both will likely stay around 4 or 5 max.
Like it or not, Tannehill's inexperience, the skill-sets of our wide-outs and the strength of our backfield & O-line means that hand-offs are a more dependable option for the coaches right now in the red zone. I understand that temporary decision.
Both WRs had had amazing days today with Hartline catching a dozen balls for 250+ yards and Bess going for something like 125 yards but aside from Naanee's catch-and-fumble I don't think any other WR caught a pass.
Those are the only guys we have doing anything for us right now and they are not red zone targets unfortunately. What's surprised me is how little Charles Clay has done in this offense because he and Fasano should really be our red zone weapons. |
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cddolphin
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Quite an improvement from week 1 to week 4, that much is for certain. He is still making 2-3 boneheaded throws per game though.
I can't compliment his pocket presence enough though. |
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ViolentMonk71
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| HE does throw a very good ball....it also looks like he is finally getting into a rhythm with his receivers....especially Hartline.... |
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Clutch
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| ovaw8lover wrote: | | The best play tanney made this year was that double pump slant incompletion against.arizone because.it.would have gotten tipped and perhaps picked. |
Said the same thing. Nice play, even though it was an incompletion. This guy gets it. Big time.
We need Egnew to develop to help in the red zone.
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Miami2DaMax
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Only one yard from breaking the Rookie throwing cards for one game too.
I honestly think he could be a god by the end of the year, just look how he rarely even needed to look over for plays like the first few weeks, he's getting much quicker than I expected. |
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bpastermack
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:33 am Post subject: |
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He is progressed exactly how I wished he would and then some. I figured it would be 2 steps forward and one step back. He took 2 steps forward against Oakland, then 1 step back in the Jets game. But he took 3 steps forward yesterday. He showed a ton of improvement and against a defense that Tom Brady and others have struggled against. Peterson is quite possibly the best CB in the NFL. Their D-line and pass rush is no joke. Their linebackers are really good too, and they blitzed a LOT.
He needs to make less bad throws, but even Tom BRady makes a bone headed throw from time to time. He needs to get better in the red zone. I think that is probably his next big step he needs to take. He also needs to continue to improve his deep ball accuracy. But overall. I am very impressed!!
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Stars
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:30 am Post subject: |
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| Miami2DaMax wrote: | Only one yard from breaking the Rookie throwing cards for one game too.
I honestly think he could be a god by the end of the year, just look how he rarely even needed to look over for plays like the first few weeks, he's getting much quicker than I expected. |
Got the play action working, too.
I think it's all positive, to be honest. He's still got a lot to learn and develop, but last weekend's game will give him a lot of confidence. Great to have a QB airing it out. And if he can do that with our WRs, imagine if he had a true no.1... |
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WaterBear56
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| I'd like to see a few more draw plays on the 3rd and 5 range. It's a passing situation and Reggie has more than enough speed to get us 10. |
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bpastermack
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| WaterBear56 wrote: | | I'd like to see a few more draw plays on the 3rd and 5 range. It's a passing situation and Reggie has more than enough speed to get us 10. |
I would like to see a few QB draws or sweeps. Tannehill is very adept at running with the football. I wouldn't want to see it much, and I never thought I would say this about a rookie QB, but I don't think he tucks the ball away and runs with it enough. I'd like to see Tannehill running the ball 4 or 5 times a game. Maybe 2 or 3 designed run calls, and 2 or 3 that he tucked and ran. I understand though at this point. I really think they are bringing him along. I think they probably told him to almost never do it. As a rookie they probably want to make sure he leans on his arm first, and learns how to find receivers late, or properly throw the ball away.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| bpastermack wrote: | | WaterBear56 wrote: | | I'd like to see a few more draw plays on the 3rd and 5 range. It's a passing situation and Reggie has more than enough speed to get us 10. |
I would like to see a few QB draws or sweeps. Tannehill is very adept at running with the football. I wouldn't want to see it much, and I never thought I would say this about a rookie QB, but I don't think he tucks the ball away and runs with it enough. I'd like to see Tannehill running the ball 4 or 5 times a game. Maybe 2 or 3 designed run calls, and 2 or 3 that he tucked and ran. I understand though at this point. I really think they are bringing him along. I think they probably told him to almost never do it. As a rookie they probably want to make sure he leans on his arm first, and learns how to find receivers late, or properly throw the ball away. |
I agree. I think it would make the defense more honest and might by him a little more time when he actually is dropping back to pass.
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khodder
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He impressed with the number of very difficult throws he made. The two key turnovers on Sunday were both entirely on the OL IMO, the strip sack he was hit before he finished his drop and on the INT in OT he was hit as he threw by a free blitzer slicing through the line.
He made one throw over Peterson to Hartline for 30 yards which was incredibly impressive. He also made a great throw on the first third down conversion of the game.
He still makes mistakes here and there, but he looks very polished and most of all he looks very comfortbale in a collapsing pocket and under pressure.
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phinmun
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| khodder wrote: | He impressed with the number of very difficult throws he made. The two key turnovers on Sunday were both entirely on the OL IMO, the strip sack he was hit before he finished his drop and on the INT in OT he was hit as he threw by a free blitzer slicing through the line.
He made one throw over Peterson to Hartline for 30 yards which was incredibly impressive. He also made a great throw on the first third down conversion of the game.
He still makes mistakes here and there, but he looks very polished and most of all he looks very comfortbale in a collapsing pocket and under pressure. |
Glad Peterson was alright. As I'm sure you noticed he was grimacing after landing quite awkwardly. It appeared that all his weight came down on one leg.
Glad to see he was alright. Talented player indeed!  |
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ViolentMonk71
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| bpastermack wrote: | http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/espns_jaws_loves_tannehill_and_his_transition_to_the_nfl/11890294
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/tannehills_developing_faster_because_of_dolphins_practice_style/11879533
| Quote: | | What’s most impressive about Tannehill is his ability to adjust when the defense blitzes. When the defense rushes 5 or more defenders, Tannehill has completed 16 of 22 passes for 306 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT for a QB rating of 110. That’s good. Actually, that’s the best of any quarterback in the NFL when blitzed. Pretty impressive for a guy who wasn’t supposed to play this year, huh? |
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I almost get the feeling I'm too excited about the play of Tannehill, but the guy has played better each week and seems to have command on the field. He's taken that leadership roll and each week he continues to earn it. Lets hope that his development continues and we as fans can finally stop wondering who will be under center each season. |
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