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49ersfan · Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 7184

Many teams have a winning record but these 3 teams arguably qualify as the biggest surprise teams with winning records. Nobody thought Minnesota would beat SF and DET, or ARI going 4-0, and the Bengals were a popular pick to regress from a playoff team. But all 3 teams have a winning record, with the Cardinals undefeated. Are these teams contenders, primed to win a playoff spot, or contenders, destined to fade away?

My take

Cardinals- Contenders. D is for real.

Vikings- Contenders. Harvin and Peterson are dangerous and Ponder has been playing smart, efficient football.

Bengals- ? Not so sure. My gut says Pretenders but i also thought they would really disappoint to start the season and Dalton has really improved so far. But that passing D and CB situation is very shaky. The AFC is also very weak to the point where even if they do fall off, they can still make the playoffs as long as they don't completely regress. So i guess i'll go contenders too, but no so confident in this projection.

Mossburg · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject:

None are contenders.

The Cards can make some noise late in the year, but that offense isn't going far at it's current state.
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wackywabbit · Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 11998

Didn't the Bengals make the playoffs and have a winning record, last year?

Yes, I think they are contenders.

yupyup · Joined: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 585

If I had to rank them right now I'd go:

1. Arizona
2. Cincy
3. Minnesota

Cardinals look legit even with a terrible QB at the helm. Bengals made the postseason last year and AJ Green is proving he's already elite. I'm not sold on Minny just yet. I'm still waiting to see how Ponder responds when something bad happens, which hasn't really happened yet. If he keeps it up then I think they can push for the postseason, if not, I think they'll fall back a bit.
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joru1000 · Joined: 23 Jan 2012 Posts: 3420

... the Bengals are contenders... they went to the playoffs last year.

The 2012 Vikings are the 2011 Bengals. They are contenders.

The Cardinals are already 4-0 and will be able to contend for a wild card spot if Kolb can find some rhythm.

They are all contenders if you mean for a playoff spot.

lionslicer · Joined: 06 Nov 2010 Posts: 1820

Mossburg · Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject:

Contender doesn't mean going to the playoffs. Contender means you can challenge for a ring. Were the Falcons contenders last year?
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bucsfan333 · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 38534 Location: the mitten

It depends on the QB play of all three teams. Every other aspect of each team is good enough to carry each team to the playoffs. Can the QBs continue to make plays and avoid mistakes? That's the biggest question.

I like Ponder. Just watching him last year, you could tell he just gets being an NFL QB. He's my favorite of the three. Green Bay isn't the powerhouse they've been the last couple years, Detroit seems to have taken a step back, and Chicago isn't very consistent. At this time, I wouldn't be surprised if Minny competed for the division crown.

Dalton is greatly helped by a top 10 WR in Green. Dalton is no slouch though. He can manage a game and can win a couple too. It helps that Baltimore and Pittsburgh don't seem as dominant as they have been the last few years.

There still seems to be a mess at QB in 'Zona. Their defense is legit and I still think Fitz is the best WR in the NFL. If whoever starts at QB for the Cards can manage games, they'll make the playoffs. This team (surprisingly) has the toughest route to a division win. Seattle, the 9ers, and the Rams can all realistically go 9-7 to 12-4 and win the division.

zacapr22 · Joined: 03 Jan 2011 Posts: 1251 Location: East

There is no reason as to why we can't be seen as contenders. Dalton and Green have been lighting it up so far and when the defense gets to it's strength, it is top 10. Though our 3 wins were against the Browns, Redskins, and Jags, we have the talent to compete with higher teams. We surely have been looking better than Pittsburgh has so we are in the right track to be 2nd in the AFCN and in wild card position.
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Skinsfan13 · Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 212 Location: Washington, DC

The Bengals beat the Titans last season and they had a winning record iirc. They also beat the Cardinals in the middle of their hot streak (that they're still on, so that was pretty impressive imo).

I think that both the Cardinals and Bengals make the playoffs this season. The Cardinals because of their defense, and the Bengals because of their ridiculously talented offense. Green, Gresham, Hawkins etc. is a really electric group, and Dalton has clearly taken a step forward this season.

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Nzd07 · Joined: 13 Nov 2010 Posts: 4005

If we're going by chances of making the playoffs:

1. Bengals
2. Cardinals
3. Vikings

Bengals have the best chance simply because they're in the AFC. They only have Pittsburgh and Denver to compete for a WC spot at this point.

Cards have a shot at winning the NFCW. If they don't, it'll be tough getting a playoff spot. MIN, CHI, STL, SEA, SF, and the entire NFCE are potential wild card contenders. Same with MN, although I don't see them beating the packers this year.
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Vikefan79 · Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 29741 Location: Atlanta

I like the nice little run the Vikings are having but we are nowhere near being contenders. I still don't expect more than 7-9 wins.