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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bah. What a frustrating game for both teams. Good game, guys.

RGIII has a bright future. Hopefully this isn't as good as he can be. He makes good decisions and really only runs when it's designed or when he has to. He looks better than Newton did last year. He's a much better passer. He's pretty solid moving around in the pocket. He throws a petty ball.

I hated the flag on Barron though. I thought it was a great tackle and it prevented the pitch.

Cundiff is the only reason we were able to come back. He's also the reason you guys won.
exactly!! Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucsfan333 wrote:
Bah. What a frustrating game for both teams. Good game, guys.

RGIII has a bright future. Hopefully this isn't as good as he can be. He makes good decisions and really only runs when it's designed or when he has to. He looks better than Newton did last year. He's a much better passer. He's pretty solid moving around in the pocket. He throws a petty ball.

I hated the flag on Barron though. I thought it was a great tackle and it prevented the pitch.

Cundiff is the only reason we were able to come back. He's also the reason you guys won.


One letter makes so much of a difference. Laughing Good game, bf333. I can't say I enjoyed the second half, but it's my freakin' birthday! I have a right to celebrate, right?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redskins24-7 wrote:
bucsfan333 wrote:
Bah. What a frustrating game for both teams. Good game, guys.

RGIII has a bright future. Hopefully this isn't as good as he can be. He makes good decisions and really only runs when it's designed or when he has to. He looks better than Newton did last year. He's a much better passer. He's pretty solid moving around in the pocket. He throws a petty ball.

I hated the flag on Barron though. I thought it was a great tackle and it prevented the pitch.

Cundiff is the only reason we were able to come back. He's also the reason you guys won.


One letter makes so much of a difference. Laughing Good game, bf333. I can't say I enjoyed the second half, but it's my freakin' birthday! I have a right to celebrate, right?

Laughing Yeah. I meant "pretty."

I'm still pretty sore with this loss.
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You guys should honestly just sign a rookie kicker with a little potential. That's what the rest of the teams with kicker problems have been doing since last year. It's working great Very Happy


We had a better kicker. Then cut him for Cundiff.


Exactly.

One yard farther out and that's a miss on the last one; they knew what they were getting into...sigh.


You and Woz correctly pointed this out. This is the most frustrating thing.
sounds like you guys would have rather he missed... Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
bucsfan333 wrote:
Bah. What a frustrating game for both teams. Good game, guys.

RGIII has a bright future. Hopefully this isn't as good as he can be. He makes good decisions and really only runs when it's designed or when he has to. He looks better than Newton did last year. He's a much better passer. He's pretty solid moving around in the pocket. He throws a petty ball.

I hated the flag on Barron though. I thought it was a great tackle and it prevented the pitch.

Cundiff is the only reason we were able to come back. He's also the reason you guys won.
exactly!! Cool


He was a yard from pulling a Penn State kicker there. To be fair, the Penn State kicker wasn't supposed to be the starter; he was only thrust into that role when their main guy left PSU. Cundiff is a professional. To miss from 41 and 31 while just barely making a second 41 yard field goal ... this isn't good.

Cundiff after four games:
<30: 0 for 0 (N/A)
30-39: 3 for 4 (75%)
40-49: 3 for 4 (75%)
50+: 0 for 2 (0%)

Career:
<30: 50 for 50 (100%)
30-39: 42 for 55 (76.3%)
40-49: 37 for 52 (71.1%)
50+: 5 for 21 (23.8%)

As I said before, he's an average kicker who had one spectacular year. Take that year out and he's sub-par.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
Thaiphoon wrote:
footy_29 wrote:
Thaiphoon wrote:
canadaluvsdalla wrote:
You guys should honestly just sign a rookie kicker with a little potential. That's what the rest of the teams with kicker problems have been doing since last year. It's working great Very Happy


We had a better kicker. Then cut him for Cundiff.


Exactly.

One yard farther out and that's a miss on the last one; they knew what they were getting into...sigh.


You and Woz correctly pointed this out. This is the most frustrating thing.
sounds like you guys would have rather he missed... Confused


Not at all, and not only because I want St. Louis to end up with a really weak draft pick from us.

I'm just pointing out that we cannot rely on Cundiff. That thinking of him as an upgrade was a incredible joke.

EDIT: While I didn't want him to miss, I was fully expecting him to shank it again. I didn't think it was inside of the upright at first.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2012/09/30/week-4-redskins-at-bucs/?wpisrc=al_sports

Griffin's headset went out on the final drive nd he called about 1/2 the plays on his own!

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Problems with the headset on the final drive gave him a boost of confidence:
“It felt great. The whole drive was a little complicated. In practice every week, we always practice me calling the plays in two-minute [drills], acting as if the headset has gone out. The funny thing is the headset did go out on that drive. That’s why I was having to run back and forth to the sideline. I had to call a couple of my own plays and we moved the chains and got in field-goal range so it was very neat how that practice situation, that practice scenario played out in the game. Hopefully, you don’t want that to happen, but it was pretty cool.”
He estimated that he and Kyle Shanahan each called about half the plays on the drive. “Normally, I don’t call my own plays. I trust my offensive coordinator that he knows what he’s doing in those situations. But it both looked like what we were doing collectively.”

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had more confidence that Cundiff was going to make that kick, even with all of those misses, than I would have with Gano. Cundiff has been pretty solid without this performance today (and his 2 57+ yard fg tries); I don't know why people are wanting him out already.
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I had more confidence that Cundiff was going to make that kick, even with all of those misses, than I would have with Gano. Cundiff has been pretty solid without this performance today (and his 2 57+ yard fg tries); I don't know why people are wanting him out already.
if he didn't make that kick, I was ready to move on, but I am definitely more confident with Cundiff taking a game winning kick than Gano. Gano missed several possible game winners
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turtle28 wrote:
bucsfan333 wrote:
Bah. What a frustrating game for both teams. Good game, guys.

RGIII has a bright future. Hopefully this isn't as good as he can be. He makes good decisions and really only runs when it's designed or when he has to. He looks better than Newton did last year. He's a much better passer. He's pretty solid moving around in the pocket. He throws a petty ball.

I hated the flag on Barron though. I thought it was a great tackle and it prevented the pitch.

Cundiff is the only reason we were able to come back. He's also the reason you guys won.
exactly!! Cool


He was a yard from pulling a Penn State kicker there. To be fair, the Penn State kicker wasn't supposed to be the starter; he was only thrust into that role when their main guy left PSU. Cundiff is a professional. To miss from 41 and 31 while just barely making a second 41 yard field goal ... this isn't good.

Cundiff after four games:
<30: 0 for 0 (N/A)
30-39: 3 for 4 (75%)
40-49: 3 for 4 (75%)
50+: 0 for 2 (0%)

Career:
<30: 50 for 50 (100%)
30-39: 42 for 55 (76.3%)
40-49: 37 for 52 (71.1%)
50+: 5 for 21 (23.8%)

As I said before, he's an average kicker who had one spectacular year. Take that year out and he's sub-par.
yes but Gano is no better. If we want an upgrade, re-sign Rackers
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woz wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
Thaiphoon wrote:
footy_29 wrote:
Thaiphoon wrote:
canadaluvsdalla wrote:
You guys should honestly just sign a rookie kicker with a little potential. That's what the rest of the teams with kicker problems have been doing since last year. It's working great Very Happy


We had a better kicker. Then cut him for Cundiff.


Exactly.

One yard farther out and that's a miss on the last one; they knew what they were getting into...sigh.


You and Woz correctly pointed this out. This is the most frustrating thing.
sounds like you guys would have rather he missed... Confused


Not at all, and not only because I want St. Louis to end up with a really weak draft pick from us.

I'm just pointing out that we cannot rely on Cundiff. That thinking of him as an upgrade was a incredible joke.

EDIT: While I didn't want him to miss, I was fully expecting him to shank it again. I didn't think it was inside of the upright at first.


^^^ This... I wanted him to make it so we could get the win. But I was fully expecting him to shank it left (which he almost did)
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I had more confidence that Cundiff was going to make that kick, even with all of those misses, than I would have with Gano. Cundiff has been pretty solid without this performance today (and his 2 57+ yard fg tries); I don't know why people are wanting him out already.
if he didn't make that kick, I was ready to move on, but I am definitely more confident with Cundiff taking a game winning kick than Gano. Gano missed several possible game winners


And made several as well.

And enabled us to stay in quite a few games (i.e. - the Cards game last year - only reason we were in that game was he went 4 for 4).
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Well, now we have 2 games Cundiff won for us. 4/4 vs the Saints and a game winner today vs the Bucs. Wink
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Thaiphoon wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
TLSkins wrote:
I had more confidence that Cundiff was going to make that kick, even with all of those misses, than I would have with Gano. Cundiff has been pretty solid without this performance today (and his 2 57+ yard fg tries); I don't know why people are wanting him out already.
if he didn't make that kick, I was ready to move on, but I am definitely more confident with Cundiff taking a game winning kick than Gano. Gano missed several possible game winners


And made several as well.

And enabled us to stay in quite a few games (i.e. - the Cards game last year - only reason we were in that game was he went 4 for 4).


It doesn't metter how many field goals you make if you can't make it when it really matters -- Gano has choked way too many times.
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TLSkins wrote:
Thaiphoon wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
TLSkins wrote:
I had more confidence that Cundiff was going to make that kick, even with all of those misses, than I would have with Gano. Cundiff has been pretty solid without this performance today (and his 2 57+ yard fg tries); I don't know why people are wanting him out already.
if he didn't make that kick, I was ready to move on, but I am definitely more confident with Cundiff taking a game winning kick than Gano. Gano missed several possible game winners


And made several as well.

And enabled us to stay in quite a few games (i.e. - the Cards game last year - only reason we were in that game was he went 4 for 4).


It doesn't metter how many field goals you make if you can't make it when it really matters -- Gano has choked way too many times.


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