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Tzimisce
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 Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: Who should be the starting safeties going forward? |
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Clearly that's the weak link in this defense [you can talk about Rob Ninkovich all you want, but he actually came to play against Buffalo, unlike Chung and Gregory].
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Sciz
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Ebner and a clone of Ebner.
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mcmurtry86
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Chung and Wilson, I guess. |
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| I'd like to see more Wilson. He doesn't look like a game changer, but I don't think he'll struggle as much in coverage. They really need to rebuild the position this offseason, starting by letting Chung walk. William Moore is a guy I liked since he came out of Missouri, and he's having a nice season for the Falcons; I'd be interested in bringing him in to replace Chung. Jarius Byrd would be an interesting guy too, and of course, Ed Reed, if he doesn't retire and the Ravens don't do everything in their power to retain him, would probably be worth pursuing, even at 34. |
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NinjaZX6R
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Sciz wrote: | | Ebner and a clone of Ebner. |
Ebner, as much as I love him, gave up that seam route in a cover 3 late in the game. |
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Richter
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| NinjaZX6R wrote: | | Sciz wrote: | | Ebner and a clone of Ebner. |
Ebner, as much as I love him, gave up that seam route in a cover 3 late in the game. |
He did, but he's basically learning to play football on the fly. His time won't come for another year or two. |
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NinjaZX6R
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| Richter wrote: | | NinjaZX6R wrote: | | Sciz wrote: | | Ebner and a clone of Ebner. |
Ebner, as much as I love him, gave up that seam route in a cover 3 late in the game. |
He did, but he's basically learning to play football on the fly. His time won't come for another year or two. |
Agreed. |
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terbo559
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Matthew Slater and Julian Edelman
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Donut
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I said Gregory and WIlson. I really like Wilson and I dont think Gregory makes as many errors in passing game chung does.
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TKOhitter8737
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Donut wrote: | | I said Gregory and WIlson. I really like Wilson and I dont think Gregory makes as many errors in passing game chung does. |
Chung might not be good in coverage, but Gregory take's bad angles and is not good in coverage at all. Atleast with chung it is very rare that he wont be in the right spot or miss a tackle. |
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nextsuperstar
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Chung is good against the run, and since Wilson has played mostly in passing situations, I guess Chung should continue to start at SS. I would like to see Chung and Wilson |
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patsfan25
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Are there any veteran safeties left on the market? I just don't see why BB wouldn't bring in a veteran presence somewhere on the back end of this defense. Any veteran S on a team that could be traded? I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull off a "Jarrad Page" like they did a few seasons back.
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I'm not as low on Chung as many of you seem to be. While he did have a horrid angle on that TD reception, he was one of the best players on the field in the past Super Bowl (people seem to forget that) and overall he's been relatively solid this season. The TD by Jones is the first that I'd call him primarily responsible for.
Before the Bills game, teams had a 39.6 QB rating throwing into his coverage. I think that more of his perceived issues are due to the fact that his corners are Kyle Arrington and Sterling Moore for the most part, neither of whom are that good. Gregory, I've seen, has a tendency to help McCourty on most plays, while Chung has to babysit the others. Sometimes he takes mediocre angles, but which safety doesn't, really?
I just keep flashing back to the Super Bowl where for three and three quarter-quarters, he was the best player on our defense, and I want to believe in him. I still do, apparently more than the rest of you.
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tonyto3690
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| Richter wrote: | | I'd like to see more Wilson. He doesn't look like a game changer, but I don't think he'll struggle as much in coverage. They really need to rebuild the position this offseason, starting by letting Chung walk. William Moore is a guy I liked since he came out of Missouri, and he's having a nice season for the Falcons; I'd be interested in bringing him in to replace Chung. Jarius Byrd would be an interesting guy too, and of course, Ed Reed, if he doesn't retire and the Ravens don't do everything in their power to retain him, would probably be worth pursuing, even at 34. |
I don't know if I want rees at this point. He's an obvious upgrade but he'd cost too much to leave Baltimore, is aging and always dinged up and with One foot out the door to retirement.
I'd rather get a young athletic safety and stick with him. Still not sold Chung is that guy. Neither obviously Wilson gregory or ebner though they are certainly better than last year.
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TomRalph
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No way will Reed leave Baltimore, he stays as a Raven or retires as a Raven.
I'm liking Chung too, as is Rab, never really stands out as doing something horrible but can come in and make an impact play, whether its a TFL, INT, or a big hit.
Yes he got beaten by Chandler against the Bills, but the 8" difference really played a part in that.
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