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NickButera
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| silver_surfer wrote: | jury still out on Taiwan Jones too :/
I still don't like the DVD move...
I moved on...
I still think we have two scrubs on the roster
C Alex Parsons
CB Coye Francis
I would hope we could upgrade with other player. I still think Chekwa is better than Francis
Also, TE Richard Gordan has grown on me .. I get his role as a back up tight end. He is a good blocker, and a great special teams player..
Who is Brandon Ross?? I wonder what he the new LB or Clayton will do if given a chance |
You've been calling for Parson's head for a while now. Problem is, if we get rid of him we run into the same problem we had against SD; No one capable of filling in at center. Parson's is a key backup position, center is one of the more important positions on the field. If we don't have Parsons and Wiz goes down..... we're screwed. He knows our scheme, is familiar snapping the ball to Palmer and can fill in in a jam. That's no scrub. That's key depth, and people like that keeps us from losing games when bad things happen.
I don't think he's as expendable as you think he is.
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bitty
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| RaiderX wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | Professor Oak wrote: | I hate to pile it all on him now, but I never liked the Barksdale pick.
Aside from not being a fit in this scheme, Barksdale is not an NFL quality player IMO. The fact that he couldn't beat anyone out on the roster & got abused every time he was on the field dating back to last season tells me all I need to know about him.
He's way too stiff & heavy on his feet to have success at OT. Maybe OG is better suited for him. |
Forget the pick. I still don't understand the trade.
Davis went to the NE well literally 20 picks before NE's pick with the trade. No idea who was going to be there. It was just odd and then got another LSU turd out of it. |
Arguably a worse trade than the Palmer trade. Jones is rarely on the field too. After the muffled kickoff return and the fumble on the reverse along with his inability to pass protect could have him out the door next offseason. |
Say what you will about the trade but Palmer is the top rated QB in the AFC West
1 B. Roethlisberger, QB PIT 120 82 68.3 904 7.5 37 8 1 109.2 301.3
2 A. Dalton, QB CIN 95 65 68.4 867 9.1 59 6 3 105.0 289.0
3 M. Schaub, QB HOU 96 63 65.6 751 7.8 60 5 1 102.4 250.3
4 J. Flacco, QB BAL 110 71 64.5 913 8.3 52 6 2 101.1 304.3
5 T. Brady, QB NE 118 79 66.9 887 7.5 59 4 1 97.0 295.7
6 R. Fitzpatrick, QB BUF 86 50 58.1 581 6.8 49 8 3 95.2 193.7
7 J. Locker, QB TEN 104 67 64.4 781 7.5 71 4 2 91.9 260.3
8 C. Palmer, QB OAK 128 80 62.5 879 6.9 64 5 2 89.3 293.0
9 P. Rivers, QB SD 103 69 67.0 688 6.7 46 4 3 86.5 229.3
10 B. Gabbert, QB JAC 79 40 50.6 468 5.9 80 4 0 85.8 156.0
11 P. Manning, QB DEN 115 69 60.0 824 7.2 71 5 3 85.6 274.7
12 M. Sanchez, QB NYJ 99 50 50.5 710 7.2 66 5 3 78.3 236.7
13 A. Luck, QB IND 122 65 53.3 846 6.9 41 5 4 75.4 282.0
14 M. Cassel, QB KC 119 70 58.8 807 6.8 33 3 4 73.8 269.0 |
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TiberiusRising
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| bitty wrote: | | RaiderX wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | Professor Oak wrote: | I hate to pile it all on him now, but I never liked the Barksdale pick.
Aside from not being a fit in this scheme, Barksdale is not an NFL quality player IMO. The fact that he couldn't beat anyone out on the roster & got abused every time he was on the field dating back to last season tells me all I need to know about him.
He's way too stiff & heavy on his feet to have success at OT. Maybe OG is better suited for him. |
Forget the pick. I still don't understand the trade.
Davis went to the NE well literally 20 picks before NE's pick with the trade. No idea who was going to be there. It was just odd and then got another LSU turd out of it. |
Arguably a worse trade than the Palmer trade. Jones is rarely on the field too. After the muffled kickoff return and the fumble on the reverse along with his inability to pass protect could have him out the door next offseason. |
Say what you will about the trade but Palmer is the top rated QB in the AFC West
1 B. Roethlisberger, QB PIT 120 82 68.3 904 7.5 37 8 1 109.2 301.3
2 A. Dalton, QB CIN 95 65 68.4 867 9.1 59 6 3 105.0 289.0
3 M. Schaub, QB HOU 96 63 65.6 751 7.8 60 5 1 102.4 250.3
4 J. Flacco, QB BAL 110 71 64.5 913 8.3 52 6 2 101.1 304.3
5 T. Brady, QB NE 118 79 66.9 887 7.5 59 4 1 97.0 295.7
6 R. Fitzpatrick, QB BUF 86 50 58.1 581 6.8 49 8 3 95.2 193.7
7 J. Locker, QB TEN 104 67 64.4 781 7.5 71 4 2 91.9 260.3
8 C. Palmer, QB OAK 128 80 62.5 879 6.9 64 5 2 89.3 293.0
9 P. Rivers, QB SD 103 69 67.0 688 6.7 46 4 3 86.5 229.3
10 B. Gabbert, QB JAC 79 40 50.6 468 5.9 80 4 0 85.8 156.0
11 P. Manning, QB DEN 115 69 60.0 824 7.2 71 5 3 85.6 274.7
12 M. Sanchez, QB NYJ 99 50 50.5 710 7.2 66 5 3 78.3 236.7
13 A. Luck, QB IND 122 65 53.3 846 6.9 41 5 4 75.4 282.0
14 M. Cassel, QB KC 119 70 58.8 807 6.8 33 3 4 73.8 269.0 |
Interesting that he has the least turnovers this year. The first was on a pass that was on purposly thrown into coverage to try and get on the board late in a blowout and the other was when Moore just fell down. |
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Roninho
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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I guess it's really time for me to get a new sig... any suggestions..?
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dante9876
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Roninho wrote: | | I guess it's really time for me to get a new sig... any suggestions..? |
LOL yeah it surely is. |
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big_palooka
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Roninho wrote: | | I guess it's really time for me to get a new sig... any suggestions..? |
I would say so.
What you want? I can hook you up Ron.
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Roninho
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| big_palooka wrote: | | Roninho wrote: | | I guess it's really time for me to get a new sig... any suggestions..? |
I would say so.
What you want? I can hook you up Ron. |
oh, as a fan of offensive lineman I thought about one with one or some of our star oliners of the past, but dont have the time or qualities to make one. Would be sweet if you could hook me up with a nice one!
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King Money
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:53 pm Post subject: Barksdale won't be the last |
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| Oh yeah, if you don't contribute u will be shown the door. The door will be opening to Taiwan, Leinart, DHB and Seymour in due time. |
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RaiderX
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Barksdale won't be the last |
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| King Money wrote: | | Oh yeah, if you don't contribute u will be shown the door. The door will be opening to Taiwan, Leinart, DHB and Seymour in due time. |
Huh?
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big_palooka
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Barksdale won't be the last |
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| King Money wrote: | | Oh yeah, if you don't contribute u will be shown the door. The door will be opening to Taiwan, Leinart, DHB and Seymour in due time. |
Nick, c'mon!! Drop the HAMMER!!!
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oakdb36
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He got claimed by Saint Louis.
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chris00cm
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| oakdb36 wrote: | | He got claimed by Saint Louis. |
Was reading he was a bad scheme fit, which isn't much of a surprise given his size and athleticism in college.
We run a power system. That's the only reason why I think he has a chance. Not expecting a lot but the Rams have the worst offensive line in the league so any change is good.
This is who we started last week: LT Wayne Hunter, LG Quinn Ojinnaka, C Robert Turner, RG Harvey Dahl, RT Barry Richardson
Can't be much worst than that, right? 
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| bitty wrote: | | RaiderX wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | Professor Oak wrote: | I hate to pile it all on him now, but I never liked the Barksdale pick.
Aside from not being a fit in this scheme, Barksdale is not an NFL quality player IMO. The fact that he couldn't beat anyone out on the roster & got abused every time he was on the field dating back to last season tells me all I need to know about him.
He's way too stiff & heavy on his feet to have success at OT. Maybe OG is better suited for him. |
Forget the pick. I still don't understand the trade.
Davis went to the NE well literally 20 picks before NE's pick with the trade. No idea who was going to be there. It was just odd and then got another LSU turd out of it. |
Arguably a worse trade than the Palmer trade. Jones is rarely on the field too. After the muffled kickoff return and the fumble on the reverse along with his inability to pass protect could have him out the door next offseason. |
Say what you will about the trade but Palmer is the top rated QB in the AFC West
1 B. Roethlisberger, QB PIT 120 82 68.3 904 7.5 37 8 1 109.2 301.3
2 A. Dalton, QB CIN 95 65 68.4 867 9.1 59 6 3 105.0 289.0
3 M. Schaub, QB HOU 96 63 65.6 751 7.8 60 5 1 102.4 250.3
4 J. Flacco, QB BAL 110 71 64.5 913 8.3 52 6 2 101.1 304.3
5 T. Brady, QB NE 118 79 66.9 887 7.5 59 4 1 97.0 295.7
6 R. Fitzpatrick, QB BUF 86 50 58.1 581 6.8 49 8 3 95.2 193.7
7 J. Locker, QB TEN 104 67 64.4 781 7.5 71 4 2 91.9 260.3
8 C. Palmer, QB OAK 128 80 62.5 879 6.9 64 5 2 89.3 293.0
9 P. Rivers, QB SD 103 69 67.0 688 6.7 46 4 3 86.5 229.3
10 B. Gabbert, QB JAC 79 40 50.6 468 5.9 80 4 0 85.8 156.0
11 P. Manning, QB DEN 115 69 60.0 824 7.2 71 5 3 85.6 274.7
12 M. Sanchez, QB NYJ 99 50 50.5 710 7.2 66 5 3 78.3 236.7
13 A. Luck, QB IND 122 65 53.3 846 6.9 41 5 4 75.4 282.0
14 M. Cassel, QB KC 119 70 58.8 807 6.8 33 3 4 73.8 269.0 |
Clearly, you lack the ability to read a diagram as this is the anti-swag scale where Palmer should be in the top three. 'Round ear we prefer our QBs with mohawks and tats. I don't see NONE of that on this bogus BORING entitled QB ranking.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| chris00cm wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | He got claimed by Saint Louis. |
Was reading he was a bad scheme fit, which isn't much of a surprise given his size and athleticism in college.
We run a power system. That's the only reason why I think he has a chance. Not expecting a lot but the Rams have the worst offensive line in the league so any change is good.
This is who we started last week: LT Wayne Hunter, LG Quinn Ojinnaka, C Robert Turner, RG Harvey Dahl, RT Barry Richardson
Can't be much worst than that, right? |
he might be able to earn his worth like our other old o-line draft pick booth did for the giants? i think it was.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| chris00cm wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | He got claimed by Saint Louis. |
Was reading he was a bad scheme fit, which isn't much of a surprise given his size and athleticism in college.
We run a power system. That's the only reason why I think he has a chance. Not expecting a lot but the Rams have the worst offensive line in the league so any change is good.
This is who we started last week: LT Wayne Hunter, LG Quinn Ojinnaka, C Robert Turner, RG Harvey Dahl, RT Barry Richardson
Can't be much worst than that, right? |
WOW! 
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