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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:07 am    Post subject: 2013 ???th Off Season Mock. Reply with quote

Head Coaching Candidates-

1st Round Pool:

---Fresh Face---

Mike McCoy, Broncos' OC
Ray Horton, Cardinals' DC,
Dirk Koetter, Falcons' OC,
Tom Clements, Packers' OC,
Vic Fangio, 49ers' DC,
Ken Norton, Seahawks' LBC,
Gus Bradley, Seahawks' DC,
Chip Kelly, Oregon's HC,
Kyle Shanahan, Redskins' OC,
Brad Seely, 49ers' STC,
Dave Toub, Bears' STC,

Brian Kelly, Norte Dame's HC,

Bo Pelini, Cornhuskers' HC,

Will Muschamp, Florida's HC,


---At Least Second Chance---

Wade Phillips, Texans' DC,
Perry Fewell, Giants' DC,
Cam Cameron, Ravens' OC,
Mike Nolan, Falcons' DC,
Marty Mornhinweg, Eagles' OC,
Eric Mangini, TV worker,

Jon Gruden, TV worker,

Bill Cowher, TV worker,

2nd Round Pool:


Mike McCoy.
Ray Horton.
Dirk Koetter.
Tom Clements.
Vic Fangio.
Ken Norton.
Perry Fewell.
Jon Gruden.
Chip Kelly.
Eric Mangini.
Kyle Shanahan.
Brad Seely.
Bill Cowher

3rd Round Pool:


Mike McCoy.
Ray Horton.
Vic Fangio.
Jon Gruden.
Brad Seely.
Chip Kelly.
Bill Cowher.

Finalist: (Narrow down to cheapest contract possible)


Mike McCoy
Ray Horton
Brad Seely




General Manager - Omar Khan.

- He is responsible for cleaning up Steelers' messed salary cap without losing good players last year. He has involved in stocking up talents for position depth. He should be considered as a salary guru, not Mike Tannebaum.




Head Coach - Ray Horton.

He is "show me job and it is yours for now" coach. He has balls to diminish One of NFL's best SS, Adrian Wilson, for better defense scheme. He owns 2 Super Bowl rings as a Steelers' coach. Horton being appointed as Jets' new head coach may be linked with Steelers, the team that new general manager has worked for.



Offensive Coordinator - Norv Turner.

He is done as head coach for good. He loves to use TE so Keller won't have to play as an emergency WR for Sanchez. Turner made Mike Nolan look good as 49ers' head coach by helping Alex Smith, a 1st round bust, play like above average quarterback in the league. For Jets, it should be no matter who is under center when the offense moves the chain and scores well.


Defensive Coordinator - Ken Norton Jr.

He has been working under Pete Carroll for many years in college and pro. Now, it is time for him to handle bigger job. Horton and Norton can work out the difference between 3-4 and 4-3 for multiple formations. That means the defense has to be aggressive and athletic enough to change scheme every snap.


Notable Cut-

1. OT Jason Smith.

2. LB Calvin Pace.

3. LB Bart Scott.

Trade Away-

1. Santoino Holmes to Houston Texans for 6th Round Pick.

2. Tim Tebow to Kansas City Chiefs for 5th Round Pick.


Free Agent-


1. TE Dustin Keller, Jets.

-he still runs like WR and deserves to have better part in pass offense.

2. QB Brady Quinn, Chiefs.

-Since everyone knows that Jets wont afford to land Joe Flacco as a free agent, Quinn offers good arm strength and touch on football to challenge Mark Sanchez for OC Turner.

3. G Tyronne Green, Chargers.
4. G Rex Hadnot, Chargers.

-Probably won't brilliant moves but Slauson and Moore both are free agents. With new coaching staffs and system, Jets opt to get OL that knows Turner well. Green is better at run blocking and Hadnot is the opposite. It is a temporary fix as the 2013 draft class lacks depth at Guard.

5. LB Dannell Ellerbe, Ravens.

-Coverage LB just touches a physical game this year. He could take over David Harris' role and Harris over Scott on the field.

6. OLB Victor Butler, Cowboys.

-I get feeling Butler is a better fit in LeBeau's defense than either Ryan's.

7. LB Ashlee Palmer, Lions.

-He is more of a student, not player. He is a natural for pass coverage. He can be a good use for any LB in 4-3 defense.

8. SS Yeremiah Bell, Jets.

- I pick Bell over Landry for SS job because he plays smarter.

9. FS Corey Lynch, Chargers.

-He was my favorite safety out of college. He is solid in pass coverage but is not that physical.



Draft-

1. OLB Scott Crichton, Oregon State.

-Maybe it won't happen but that is how I value 2012 college prospects right now. Crichton is everything plus relentless motor. You are going to love this kid.

2. RB Mike Gillislee, Florida.

-Jets need a good RB to count on. Right now, he has excellent long speed but he will bulk up to absorb hits so his long speed will diminish subsequently. The best definitions of him are patience, field vision and accerlation.

3. OLB DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina.

- He plays the hover role that FF's Jets fans favorite player played last year. He is way bigger and faster than Antonio Allen. He has yet to lose speed during bulking up to his frame. He is superior to Allen in pass coverage.


4. SS Shawn Williams, Georgia.

-His coverage skill is getting better but he wants a physical game. Big red flag on him is that he is prone to being an unhappy camper.

5. WR Chris Harper, Kansas State.

-I don't know whether or not he can go deeper but his quarterback has a noodle arm. He offers better hands and body altheticism. His speed should be in 4.4 range.

5. RB Rex Burkhead, Nebraska.

- A power runner to improve a short yard and goalline situtions. Jets need to bolster the run game big time.

6. QB Sean Renfree, Duke.

-He knows many presnap motions and schemes in pro style. He has good arm strength but often throws a lob as WR flees deeper. His toughness will be never questionable.

6. CB Will Davis, Utah State.

-He is one of best pass defensive players in NCAA right now. And he just scratches on talent.

7. OL Manase Foketi, West Texas.

- He transferred to lesser level team because Kansas State did not allow him to go to another FBS school despite he graduated from there. His status will be a mid rounder if his knee and leg check out good and his ability of playing LT. Right now, he is a steal for 7th round as he could play anywhere except C.



Offense:

QB- Sanchez, Quinn, Renfree.
RB- Gillislee, Powell, Burkhead, Grimes.
FB- Baker, Bellore.
TE- Keller, Cumberland, Reuland.
WR- Hill, Harper, Kerley, Gates, Schilens
OT- Ferguson, Foketi.
LG- Hadnot, DuCasse.
OC- Mangold.
RG- Green, Schlauderaff.
RT- Howard.


Defense:

---3-4---

LE- Coples, DeVito.
NT- Pouha, Ellis, Harrison.
RE- Wilkerson.
OLB- Holloman, Butler.
ILB- Harris, Davis.
ILB- Ellerbe, Palmer.
OLB- Crichton, McIntyre

---4-3 base---

LE- Coples.
NT- Pouha, Harrison.
UT- Wilkerson, Ellis.
RE- Crichton, McIntyre.
OLB- Holloman, Palmer.
MLB- Ellerbe.
OLB- Davis, Palmer.


---4 rushers---

LE- Coples.
DT- Ellis.
DT- Wilkerson.
RE- Crichton.

---Secondary---

CB- Revis, Lankster, Fletcher.
SS- Bell, Williams.
FS- Lynch, Bush.
CB- Cromartie, Davis, Wilson, Adams.


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I like it. You hit all of our needs with every pick. I can only hope it goes this well.
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If we re-sign Landry and see something from Josh Bush, I don't think we'll go safety that early.

I'm guessing you're not a beleiver in Ducasse. I think an OL of Ferguson // Slauson // Mangold // Ducasse // Howard might not be too bad going forward.

Otherwise, excellent. Love the OLB pick. It's a must.
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green24 wrote:
If we re-sign Landry and see something from Josh Bush, I don't think we'll go safety that early.

I'm guessing you're not a beleiver in Ducasse. I think an OL of Ferguson // Slauson // Mangold // Ducasse // Howard might not be too bad going forward.

Otherwise, excellent. Love the OLB pick. It's a must.


My OL for that mock is Ferguson, Waddle, Mangold, Reynolds and Howard. That line is exactly what Sparano has been accustomed to coaching for. Ducasse is still under contract so if he actually wins LG job then Waddle becomes a swing OL. Not a problem.

Williams is SS for UGA and Bush is a pure FS. Landry is ideal for SS but is capable of playing FS. Do you remember friggin Eric Smith? Williams over Smith SHOULD NOT BE a problem. If you disagree, meet me outside this Thursday. wink.
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Jetsman82 wrote:
I like it. You hit all of our needs with every pick. I can only hope it goes this well.



Me too. I forget how difficult to have the same taste as Jets. lol.
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quietjetsket wrote:
green24 wrote:
If we re-sign Landry and see something from Josh Bush, I don't think we'll go safety that early.

I'm guessing you're not a beleiver in Ducasse. I think an OL of Ferguson // Slauson // Mangold // Ducasse // Howard might not be too bad going forward.

Otherwise, excellent. Love the OLB pick. It's a must.


My OL for that mock is Ferguson, Waddle, Mangold, Reynolds and Howard. That line is exactly what Sparano has been accustomed to coaching for. Ducasse is still under contract so if he actually wins LG job then Waddle becomes a swing OL. Not a problem.

Williams is SS for UGA and Bush is a pure FS. Landry is ideal for SS but is capable of playing FS. Do you remember friggin Eric Smith? Williams over Smith SHOULD NOT BE a problem. If you disagree, meet me outside this Thursday. wink.


I don't think Smith will be back next year. We still might bring back Yeremiah Bell next year, although he is a little old. He has been pretty good so far.
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green24 wrote:
If we re-sign Landry and see something from Josh Bush, I don't think we'll go safety that early.

I'm guessing you're not a beleiver in Ducasse. I think an OL of Ferguson // Slauson // Mangold // Ducasse // Howard might not be too bad going forward.

Otherwise, excellent. Love the OLB pick. It's a must.

Can we really say Ducasse > Moore?

Something is wrong with our OL. I can't put my finger on it, but it probably has something to do with both G positions. Slauson is a nice player, but I really don't think he's an effective run blocker. Oddly enough, I've seen Slauson have very good pass protection this season.
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I don't think Smith will be back next year. We still might bring back Yeremiah Bell next year, although he is a little old. He has been pretty good so far.


Well he is under contract. Be careful what you said. Wayne Hunter was guaranteed by Tannenbaum. Sweet Jesus!

Bell may be a suitable for annual contract. Same for Landry if he struggles to stay healthy for a season.

Bottom line is we don't have a constant in S group.
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Jetsman82 wrote:
green24 wrote:
If we re-sign Landry and see something from Josh Bush, I don't think we'll go safety that early.

I'm guessing you're not a beleiver in Ducasse. I think an OL of Ferguson // Slauson // Mangold // Ducasse // Howard might not be too bad going forward.

Otherwise, excellent. Love the OLB pick. It's a must.

Can we really say Ducasse > Moore?

Something is wrong with our OL. I can't put my finger on it, but it probably has something to do with both G positions. Slauson is a nice player, but I really don't think he's an effective run blocker. Oddly enough, I've seen Slauson have very good pass protection this season.


Maybe it's a lack of chemistry. That should improve as the season goes along.
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This is their third season together...

Aside from Howard, the other four have been together for two whole seasons and then this season.

Other teams don't seem to have near the same problems. I think they're really just not that good anymore.
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Jetsman82 wrote:
green24 wrote:
If we re-sign Landry and see something from Josh Bush, I don't think we'll go safety that early.

I'm guessing you're not a beleiver in Ducasse. I think an OL of Ferguson // Slauson // Mangold // Ducasse // Howard might not be too bad going forward.

Otherwise, excellent. Love the OLB pick. It's a must.

Can we really say Ducasse > Moore?

Something is wrong with our OL. I can't put my finger on it, but it probably has something to do with both G positions. Slauson is a nice player, but I really don't think he's an effective run blocker. Oddly enough, I've seen Slauson have very good pass protection this season.



Style and chemistry are problematic. Moore has been outstanding pass protector and average run blocker but he never played a power scheme which requires a mauling skill. Herm Edwards had power scheme with finesse OL and ZBS. Mangini and Scottenheimer had finesse OL to do ZBS assignments and pre snaps.

During Moore's tenure, he has never been a mauler. Ryan and Sparano used Ducasse for size advantage but Ducasse is yet to prove to be a good mauler.

Slauson was ZBS prospect but has been excellent pass protector. He is not known for good run blocker. He is just a victim of wrong schematic.

Mangold excels at one on one battle but once he pushes forward DL goes around Mangold's place. That is a concern for Sparano.
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This is their third season together...

Aside from Howard, the other four have been together for two whole seasons and then this season.

Other teams don't seem to have near the same problems. I think they're really just not that good anymore.



You forget the most important... OC. tsk tsk tsk.
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This is their third season together...

Aside from Howard, the other four have been together for two whole seasons and then this season.

Other teams don't seem to have near the same problems. I think they're really just not that good anymore.


We used to always run the ball to the right during the Thomas Jones and Leon Washington era. With Damien Woody replaced by a turnstile last season, we lost that ability and were forced to run it left, which was not our strength. For us to return to that ground and pound offense, we need Austin Howard to become a really good run blocker and Brandon Moore to either become Benjamin Button or be replaced by Vlad Ducasse next season. I think Ducasse can be a pretty good run blocker.
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green24 wrote:
Jetsman82 wrote:
This is their third season together...

Aside from Howard, the other four have been together for two whole seasons and then this season.

Other teams don't seem to have near the same problems. I think they're really just not that good anymore.


We used to always run the ball to the right during the Thomas Jones and Leon Washington era. With Damien Woody replaced by a turnstile last season, we lost that ability and were forced to run it left, which was not our strength. For us to return to that ground and pound offense, we need Austin Howard to become a really good run blocker and Brandon Moore to either become Benjamin Button or be replaced by Vlad Ducasse next season. I think Ducasse can be a pretty good run blocker.



that is why I upgrade both G. It gives Jets more balance in run offense.
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I NEVER say this, in fact I don't think I ever have in 10+ years of watching the NFL, but I want an offensive playmaker (RB or WR) in the 1st round. I'm all about good blocking making average skill players look insane (see LJ, Alexander) but it's so clear that this team needs a guy they can rely on to carry the team. I think it's a far bigger need than OLB, though we do need one pretty badly.

Don't know anything about this year's draft class, but just take the most insane offensive playmaker in the 1st and go from there.
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