When will we open up the passing game?

steadypimpin

I'm not saying to make this offense pass oriented. I'm just wondering if we'll ever stop with the dink and dunk. We rarely throw the ball farther than 15 yards. What's the point of getting Moss, Manningham, Jenkins if we won't use them? I'm really confused at what the coaching staff's plan for this offense's identity is. I know we do power run, but I would like to see them open up the passing game at least a little bit more.
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big9erfan · Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10670

I seriously doubt you're confused by the plan. I think it's just that you don't like it.
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oldman9er · Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 36605 Location: New Orleans

I'd like to see a hanful of deep shots per game myself. I get that we are a ball control, heavy run, blah blah blah offense... but c'mon already...
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Miami49er · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject:

Yea the passing game definitely has me a bit annoyed. I'm not sure and maybe someone can answer this for me. Is it the play calling or is Alex just constantly taking the safe throws and not taking a chance pushing the ball down the field?
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c0insnap · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject:

Honestly, we probably won't. It's just not Harbaugh's style. That's why I was confused by the signings of Moss, Manningham and the additions of Jenkins and James. We clearly aren't going to spread the field around and Moss only plays a 5th of the snaps.
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steadypimpin · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:14 pm Post subject:

I hope they implement more intermediate/deep throws as the games go along.
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neezy007 · Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 8233 Location: El Paso

Maybe Alex isn't confident in guys not named Vernon Davis. He is the only guy who he will take a chance with, and strangely enough, he has the worst hands and catching technique out of all our guys. Our WR core, in general, is as sure handed as any in the league.
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In our three wide sets, there usually is a wr going deep. the problem is two fold...

for example you line up two wide on left side and single wr on right, TE in right slot.... left outside wr runs a deep dig (left to right). slot left runs a seam route (moss) TE runs a shallow cross (right to left) and right outside wr runs a 6 yd curl. this is a common play in niner playbook.(or any team playbook, in different formations of course) but Alex's first option is to see where the safety goes at snap of the ball to either the seam route or stay home on the shallow cross. if he peels back to the seam route he checks it down to the TE cross. the problem with this is that the safety is already 15 yds off the LOS so he immediately is in the seam route, however if alex waits in the pocket the seam route would open up. But since the high safety is there alex will go to TE cross. Its the higher % throw. IF the LB jumps the cross, alex will hit the dig route 10-15 yds down field.

Alex hasnt developed the patience to sit in the pocket long enough to wait for the fly route (seam)to open up. If you watch the average time a brady, brees, ben or rodgers sits in the pocket it is much longer than alex. alex doesnt manuver in the pocket as well as these QB's either. The flip side is that with this mindset alex doesnt turn the ball over as much as he used to or as much as these other QB's either. because he gets it off much quicker to his intermediate routes he avoids the sacks, and potiential TO's.

I said this is a two fold issue becasue by these plays being drawn up this way, it gives alex easier crossing routes to hit quicker in the progression which allows us to stay on schedule with the down markers. if we are constanlty picking up 5-7 yds on 2nd and 3rd downs we are moving the chains and not turning the ball over, which has been a receipe for success for alex and our offense that we really cant dispute up to now.
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steadypimpin · Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:32 am Post subject:

Teams will start keying in on those short routes all day if we don't ever try and push the ball down field.
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Miami49er · Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:08 am Post subject:

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