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Klomp
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 Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: Oh, mercy...it's Percy! |
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“@JonEkstrom: After 3 weeks...Percy Harvin has franchise highs in receptions (27, 1st in NFL) and combined yards (559). Leads NFL in YAC (153).”
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some of that has to be tempered with the fact we have few other guys to throw to.
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| vike daddy wrote: | | some of that has to be tempered with the fact we have few other guys to throw to. |
Rudolph has 13 catches too. I would be curious to know where that ranks among the leaders at TE. |
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Klomp
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| vikingsrule wrote: | | vike daddy wrote: | | some of that has to be tempered with the fact we have few other guys to throw to. |
Rudolph has 13 catches too. I would be curious to know where that ranks among the leaders at TE. |
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With Simpson back, and Ponder getting more used to delivering the ball to Peterson in space (e.g. including him in the short passing game, I'm guessing that Harvin and Rudolph's touches will decline. But, that will be fine with me, if Simpson turns into a reliable and very capable deep threat.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Robb_K wrote: | | With Simpson back, and Ponder getting more used to delivering the ball to Peterson in space (e.g. including him in the short passing game, I'm guessing that Harvin and Rudolph's touches will decline. But, that will be fine with me, if Simpson turns into a reliable and very capable deep threat. |
I dont agree that Harvins stats (throws to) should decline with Simpson on board. You dont reduce your #1, when a #2 enters the lineup.
Jenkins/Devin (#3/#4) throws to should be declined by 50%, and be directed towards Simpson
Throwing
40% Harvin
20% Simpson
20% Kyle
15% Jenkins/Devin
5% Other
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:17 am Post subject: |
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GOOD! Let's end this -- Percy is the #1 receiver on the Vikes.
He may well break 120 catches for the year, and deservedly so. The question of the year -- How does that translate to the Vikings winning ballgames?
In the end, if Percy contributes at the rate he is and Adrian continues to amaze us -- oh, and Ponder and Rudolph kinda chip in, this offense will win a few. Stats wise, they might even make Percy a rich guy this off-season. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| CriminalMind wrote: | | Robb_K wrote: | | With Simpson back, and Ponder getting more used to delivering the ball to Peterson in space (e.g. including him in the short passing game, I'm guessing that Harvin and Rudolph's touches will decline. But, that will be fine with me, if Simpson turns into a reliable and very capable deep threat. |
I dont agree that Harvins stats (throws to) should decline with Simpson on board. You dont reduce your #1, when a #2 enters the lineup.
Jenkins/Devin (#3/#4) throws to should be declined by 50%, and be directed towards Simpson
Throwing
40% Harvin
20% Simpson
20% Kyle
15% Jenkins/Devin
5% Other |
Bingo. Harvin should continue to be prioritized above all others in the passing game. I also do not expect a dramatic drop in his numbers. But I do believe Simpson should begin to open things up for this offense and allow Ponder to sling it downfield more (something I would really like to see).
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| PurpleMugen wrote: | | CriminalMind wrote: | | Robb_K wrote: | | With Simpson back, and Ponder getting more used to delivering the ball to Peterson in space (e.g. including him in the short passing game, I'm guessing that Harvin and Rudolph's touches will decline. But, that will be fine with me, if Simpson turns into a reliable and very capable deep threat. |
I dont agree that Harvins stats (throws to) should decline with Simpson on board. You dont reduce your #1, when a #2 enters the lineup.
Jenkins/Devin (#3/#4) throws to should be declined by 50%, and be directed towards Simpson
Throwing
40% Harvin
20% Simpson
20% Kyle
15% Jenkins/Devin
5% Other |
Bingo. Harvin should continue to be prioritized above all others in the passing game. I also do not expect a dramatic drop in his numbers. But I do believe Simpson should begin to open things up for this offense and allow Ponder to sling it downfield more (something I would really like to see). |
Hopefully his touches doesnt lower because the offense scores for MORE touches in general 
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Klomp
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| CriminalMind wrote: | | Robb_K wrote: | | With Simpson back, and Ponder getting more used to delivering the ball to Peterson in space (e.g. including him in the short passing game, I'm guessing that Harvin and Rudolph's touches will decline. But, that will be fine with me, if Simpson turns into a reliable and very capable deep threat. |
I dont agree that Harvins stats (throws to) should decline with Simpson on board. You dont reduce your #1, when a #2 enters the lineup.
Jenkins/Devin (#3/#4) throws to should be declined by 50%, and be directed towards Simpson
Throwing
40% Harvin
20% Simpson
20% Kyle
15% Jenkins/Devin
5% Other |
And that is the great thing about Simpson's return!
In Ponder's 13.25 games of playing time, Harvin has 91 receptions. That averages out to 6.87 receptions per game. Over a 16 game season, it's 109.89 catches.
If anything, I think Simpson could even open up more things for Percy because it will allow Musgrave to use him more creatively.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| HighHopes wrote: | | PurpleMugen wrote: | | Bingo. Harvin should continue to be prioritized above all others in the passing game. I also do not expect a dramatic drop in his numbers. But I do believe Simpson should begin to open things up for this offense and allow Ponder to sling it downfield more (something I would really like to see). |
Hopefully his touches doesnt lower because the offense scores for MORE touches in general |
That's the plan! I really have high hopes for Simpson. I liked him a lot coming out of college, too. He didn't get much hype, hailing from small Coastal Carolina, but he's always had the game. Consistency has been an issue for him but who knows, maybe having a larger, more defined role in our offense (as opposed to his role in Cincy's) will pay dividends.
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| Klomp wrote: | | CriminalMind wrote: | | Robb_K wrote: | | With Simpson back, and Ponder getting more used to delivering the ball to Peterson in space (e.g. including him in the short passing game, I'm guessing that Harvin and Rudolph's touches will decline. But, that will be fine with me, if Simpson turns into a reliable and very capable deep threat. |
I dont agree that Harvins stats (throws to) should decline with Simpson on board. You dont reduce your #1, when a #2 enters the lineup.
Jenkins/Devin (#3/#4) throws to should be declined by 50%, and be directed towards Simpson
Throwing
40% Harvin
20% Simpson
20% Kyle
15% Jenkins/Devin
5% Other |
And that is the great thing about Simpson's return!
In Ponder's 13.25 games of playing time, Harvin has 91 receptions. That averages out to 6.87 receptions per game. Over a 16 game season, it's 109.89 catches.
If anything, I think Simpson could even open up more things for Percy because it will allow Musgrave to use him more creatively. |
IS the .89 catch similar to the Tate's catch this MNF?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:17 am Post subject: |
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IS the .89 catch similar to the Tate's catch this MNF? |
No, I think Tate got closer to the .11
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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That Harvin fellow is pretty good, he'll have teams screaming, "Lord, have Percy!"
Haters gonna hate.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:32 am Post subject: |
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I remember when the Harvin trade talk arose, virtually no one agreed with me that Harvin was a top 10 WR in this league. Anyone care to still disagree?
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