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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

futbudds wrote:
The biggest problem that I see is how the games are getting out of hand and by the end its total chaos. And how the home team and fans are swaying so much of the calls the refs make. The refs in the jags colts game yesterday were completely atrocious, the colts were offsides and took a shot on Gabbert, the o lineman pushed him off of the qb when they were on the ground (nothing out of the ordinary) and the colts DT gets up and pushes back which starts a ruckus.

The hilarious thing was the replay showed the official throwing the flag right after the colts DT shoved the jags o lineman but after they finally stopped the shoving match between both teams they gave the call to the colts and killed the drive. Instead of first and five from the colts thirty it became second and twenty five from the other side of the fifty.

I know the regular refs get part of the blame but goodell is making a joke out of this league.


Next week the replacement refs will be alot tougher with flags in general, because the NFL office will tell them to. The league should come down hard on clubs and coaches for being unruly, and making the difficult job of the replacement refs even tougher.

When anyone criticizes Goodell, always remember that he is employed by the club owners to do their bidding. If he is not giving in to the zebras and their demands, it is because the owners want it that way. If games are getting out of hand, then IMO its down to the owners to give instructions to their coaches to give the replacements an easier ride.

NFL coaches preach to their players to play with cool and calmness; some of them should take their own advice.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HangOnSloopy wrote:
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FWIW, the NFL acknowledges there should have been a 10-sec runoff with the injured Redskin at 1:07 Sunday.


Saw that, guess my rational was wrong. Refs were right in the first place, then someone else overruled what was said on the field.

INbengalfan wrote:
How about the false start with 7 seconds. They committed it. That situation is the exact reason the darn rule was put in place from the beginning.

Actually that rule is there to prevent teams from committing a dead ball foul to stop the clock. The clock was already stopped, so ergo, there does not need to be a runoff.

That one i am more confident of.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This from 'bengals.com'.......


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LAST MINUTE: It turns out that the replacement officials missed two of the three calls in the final wacky minute of Sunday's game. When the Redskins suffered an injury with 1:07 and no timeouts left, there should have been a 10-second runoff. The officials properly said that the game shouldn't have ended on a false start with seven seconds left, but they spotted the unsportsmanlike penalty wrong.

According to the NFL:

"With the clock running and less than two minutes remaining in the game, Washington quarterback Robert Griffin III completed a 12-yard pass to wide receiver Leonard Hankerson. Hankerson was injured on the play, and so the clock was stopped with 1:07 remaining.

Rule 4, Section 5, Article 4 (f) of the NFL Rule Book states:

"If an excess team timeout is charged against a team in possession of the ball, and time is in when the excess timeout is called, the ball shall not be put in play until the time on the game clock has been reduced by 10 seconds, if the defense so chooses."

Because Washington had used all three of its timeouts, a 10-second runoff should have been applied in this situation. The clock should have been set at 0:57 and started on the referee's ready for play signal.

With the clock running and under one minute remaining in the game, Washington spiked the ball to stop the clock. That resulted in a 3rd and 25 from the Cincinnati 34 with seven seconds remaining. The clock was stopped at this point because of the incomplete pass on the previous play, i.e. the spike. The Redskins were then penalized for a false start. Because the clock was stopped, there is no 10-second runoff in this situation. It was properly officiated.

In addition to the five-yard penalty for the false start, which would have taken the ball from the Cincinnati 34 to the Cincinnati 39, Washington was penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct. A penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct is 15 yards. From the Cincinnati 39, the ball should have then been spotted at the Washington 46. Instead, the ball was incorrectly spotted at the Washington 41, a difference of five yards."

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everyone clear now ? I'll be asking questions later.................
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