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BenchSanchez
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I just wanted to stop by and say thanks.
We should have lost it honestly.
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Fins20??SBChamp
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| BenchSanchez wrote: | I just wanted to stop by and say thanks.
We should have lost it honestly. |
You are welcome. The only good thing about this game is that Revis might be out for a few weeks.
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It's 1 player not our entire defense. Not worried. With or without Revis it's not like we're going to beat the 49ers or Texans.
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| hammer wrote: | | WaterBear56 wrote: | | Carpenter lost us this game. |
Really ? What about the pick six from Tanny Boy? |
Tannehill was on and off for me, there were throws I thought were moronic in nature but he also drove us back down the field in 3 minutes using no timeouts to get the tie and drove us back down the field in OT in one possession to put us in position to win. He made a mistake with the pick 6 by being baited by Landry but he also did things to help us win the game. It's up to Carpenter to finish and he didn't do his job. That said, I wouldn't cut Carpenter. Sometimes a kicker has a bad day and that's fine because every other guy also has a bad day as well. Last year Carpenter missed 4 FG's in one game and Brady threw 4 interceptions in one game also. That doesn't mean it's the norm and they should each be judged by their norm. Carpenter, any other day would have made those kicks but in this game, he did lose it for us.
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My only issue with Tanney is the babying going on. It reminds me of Chad Henne. It is very tough to watch. This offense is no better than the one coached under Sparano. They are boring as heck to watch. I do not care if Tanney is a rookie. Luck and RG3's offenses are fun to watch. You cannot become the team you want to be by not implementing the strategy. What happened to the up tempo offense? What happened to the throwing the ball around. We know the team is bad, let the record reflect it. Where are the screen passes, the draw plays? That is what I want. I do not want to see power football although that is what the current talent is designed for. This team should be building on what they hope to be not settling for the status quo.
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| ovaw8lover wrote: | | My only issue with Tanney is the babying going on. It reminds me of Chad Henne. It is very tough to watch. This offense is no better than the one coached under Sparano. They are boring as heck to watch. I do not care if Tanney is a rookie. Luck and RG3's offenses are fun to watch. You cannot become the team you want to be by not implementing the strategy. What happened to the up tempo offense? What happened to the throwing the ball around. We know the team is bad, let the record reflect it. Where are the screen passes, the draw plays? That is what I want. I do not want to see power football although that is what the current talent is designed for. This team should be building on what they hope to be not settling for the status quo. |
I completely agree...
We have a high draft pick QB....let the boy sling it around....he's going to make mistakes and bad throws, but he will also have success and can learn from all of it. I doubt he has such a fragile psyche that he can't handle some failure...let him fail....let him learn. Put the team on his back, let him be the one to win the games for the Phins...if they don't let him learn how to win games now he be slow to when they actually have some talent around him and it begins to really matter... |
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Deets
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | ovaw8lover wrote: | | My only issue with Tanney is the babying going on. It reminds me of Chad Henne. It is very tough to watch. This offense is no better than the one coached under Sparano. They are boring as heck to watch. I do not care if Tanney is a rookie. Luck and RG3's offenses are fun to watch. You cannot become the team you want to be by not implementing the strategy. What happened to the up tempo offense? What happened to the throwing the ball around. We know the team is bad, let the record reflect it. Where are the screen passes, the draw plays? That is what I want. I do not want to see power football although that is what the current talent is designed for. This team should be building on what they hope to be not settling for the status quo. |
I completely agree...
We have a high draft pick QB....let the boy sling it around....he's going to make mistakes and bad throws, but he will also have success and can learn from all of it. I doubt he has such a fragile psyche that he can't handle some failure...let him fail....let him learn. Put the team on his back, let him be the one to win the games for the Phins...if they don't let him learn how to win games now he be slow to when they actually have some talent around him and it begins to really matter... |
He did sling it around though. Tannehill went for the kill on pretty much every play after reaching field goal range at the end of regulation and in overtime.
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| ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | ovaw8lover wrote: | | My only issue with Tanney is the babying going on. It reminds me of Chad Henne. It is very tough to watch. This offense is no better than the one coached under Sparano. They are boring as heck to watch. I do not care if Tanney is a rookie. Luck and RG3's offenses are fun to watch. You cannot become the team you want to be by not implementing the strategy. What happened to the up tempo offense? What happened to the throwing the ball around. We know the team is bad, let the record reflect it. Where are the screen passes, the draw plays? That is what I want. I do not want to see power football although that is what the current talent is designed for. This team should be building on what they hope to be not settling for the status quo. |
I completely agree...
We have a high draft pick QB....let the boy sling it around....he's going to make mistakes and bad throws, but he will also have success and can learn from all of it. I doubt he has such a fragile psyche that he can't handle some failure...let him fail....let him learn. Put the team on his back, let him be the one to win the games for the Phins...if they don't let him learn how to win games now he be slow to when they actually have some talent around him and it begins to really matter... |
He threw 36 passes.
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| dolphinologist wrote: | | ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | ovaw8lover wrote: | | My only issue with Tanney is the babying going on. It reminds me of Chad Henne. It is very tough to watch. This offense is no better than the one coached under Sparano. They are boring as heck to watch. I do not care if Tanney is a rookie. Luck and RG3's offenses are fun to watch. You cannot become the team you want to be by not implementing the strategy. What happened to the up tempo offense? What happened to the throwing the ball around. We know the team is bad, let the record reflect it. Where are the screen passes, the draw plays? That is what I want. I do not want to see power football although that is what the current talent is designed for. This team should be building on what they hope to be not settling for the status quo. |
I completely agree...
We have a high draft pick QB....let the boy sling it around....he's going to make mistakes and bad throws, but he will also have success and can learn from all of it. I doubt he has such a fragile psyche that he can't handle some failure...let him fail....let him learn. Put the team on his back, let him be the one to win the games for the Phins...if they don't let him learn how to win games now he be slow to when they actually have some talent around him and it begins to really matter... |
He threw 36 passes. |
In almost 5 quarters....and for less then 200 yards... |
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Revis is done for the year. The Jets may have won one battle but they just lost the war right there. Good Night 2012 New York Jets.
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| ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | dolphinologist wrote: | | ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | ovaw8lover wrote: | | My only issue with Tanney is the babying going on. It reminds me of Chad Henne. It is very tough to watch. This offense is no better than the one coached under Sparano. They are boring as heck to watch. I do not care if Tanney is a rookie. Luck and RG3's offenses are fun to watch. You cannot become the team you want to be by not implementing the strategy. What happened to the up tempo offense? What happened to the throwing the ball around. We know the team is bad, let the record reflect it. Where are the screen passes, the draw plays? That is what I want. I do not want to see power football although that is what the current talent is designed for. This team should be building on what they hope to be not settling for the status quo. |
I completely agree...
We have a high draft pick QB....let the boy sling it around....he's going to make mistakes and bad throws, but he will also have success and can learn from all of it. I doubt he has such a fragile psyche that he can't handle some failure...let him fail....let him learn. Put the team on his back, let him be the one to win the games for the Phins...if they don't let him learn how to win games now he be slow to when they actually have some talent around him and it begins to really matter... |
He threw 36 passes. |
In almost 5 quarters....and for less then 200 yards... |
Exactly. Some of that is the lack of a game changing tight end or Armstrong dropping that slant, which could have been a 40 yarder. BTW, did we cut Nanne yet? My gosh he is a waste of cap space.
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| ovaw8lover wrote: | | ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | dolphinologist wrote: | | ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | ovaw8lover wrote: | | My only issue with Tanney is the babying going on. It reminds me of Chad Henne. It is very tough to watch. This offense is no better than the one coached under Sparano. They are boring as heck to watch. I do not care if Tanney is a rookie. Luck and RG3's offenses are fun to watch. You cannot become the team you want to be by not implementing the strategy. What happened to the up tempo offense? What happened to the throwing the ball around. We know the team is bad, let the record reflect it. Where are the screen passes, the draw plays? That is what I want. I do not want to see power football although that is what the current talent is designed for. This team should be building on what they hope to be not settling for the status quo. |
I completely agree...
We have a high draft pick QB....let the boy sling it around....he's going to make mistakes and bad throws, but he will also have success and can learn from all of it. I doubt he has such a fragile psyche that he can't handle some failure...let him fail....let him learn. Put the team on his back, let him be the one to win the games for the Phins...if they don't let him learn how to win games now he be slow to when they actually have some talent around him and it begins to really matter... |
He threw 36 passes. |
In almost 5 quarters....and for less then 200 yards... |
Exactly. Some of that is the lack of a game changing tight end or Armstrong dropping that slant, which could have been a 40 yarder. BTW, did we cut Nanne yet? My gosh he is a waste of cap space. |
The coaches are trying to win the game. They aren't give more than a year at the helm. They're not out there trying to test out every little thing they fancy.
They put together a plan that clearly held Tannehill under check a little bit this week but it held up to almost every possible mistake we could've made and we damn near won the game.
I think the coaches did exactly what they shoud've done in this game which is try and get the team a win first and get the players experience second. I'm scared of what would've happened if Tannehill would've 'just slung it around.'
It might've been 30-3 Jets or something like that. You do that and you get fired. You don't develop a team, you just get yourself fired. |
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dolphinologist
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | dolphinologist wrote: | | ViolentMonk71 wrote: | | ovaw8lover wrote: | | My only issue with Tanney is the babying going on. It reminds me of Chad Henne. It is very tough to watch. This offense is no better than the one coached under Sparano. They are boring as heck to watch. I do not care if Tanney is a rookie. Luck and RG3's offenses are fun to watch. You cannot become the team you want to be by not implementing the strategy. What happened to the up tempo offense? What happened to the throwing the ball around. We know the team is bad, let the record reflect it. Where are the screen passes, the draw plays? That is what I want. I do not want to see power football although that is what the current talent is designed for. This team should be building on what they hope to be not settling for the status quo. |
I completely agree...
We have a high draft pick QB....let the boy sling it around....he's going to make mistakes and bad throws, but he will also have success and can learn from all of it. I doubt he has such a fragile psyche that he can't handle some failure...let him fail....let him learn. Put the team on his back, let him be the one to win the games for the Phins...if they don't let him learn how to win games now he be slow to when they actually have some talent around him and it begins to really matter... |
He threw 36 passes. |
In almost 5 quarters....and for less then 200 yards... |
It might be more accurate to count the possessions. In that 5th quarter he only had one. Any how you slice it, 36 passes to this group of receivers is pushing it.
And I don't see why you have to mask your desire to be entertained with football logic. Yeah, we all want to see Miami play like the Packers, but we have to be patient. 3 games in and we are asking for more passes from a rookie QB with an oline in a newly implemented blocking scheme and a bottom tier group of receivers ?
Why bring up Andrew Luck and RG3 as if Miami has it's own version of Pierre Garcon and Reggie Wayne?
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| ovaw8lover wrote: |
Exactly. Some of that is the lack of a game changing tight end or Armstrong dropping that slant, which could have been a 40 yarder. BTW, did we cut Nanne yet? My gosh he is a waste of cap space. |
I haven't looked up how much he is getting, I presume it isn't much. He has made some plays in special teams but thats about it.
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It might be more accurate to count the possessions. In that 5th quarter he only had one. Any how you slice it, 36 passes to this group of receivers is pushing it.
And I don't see why you have to mask your desire to be entertained with football logic. Yeah, we all want to see Miami play like the Packers, but we have to be patient. 3 games in and we are asking for more passes from a rookie QB with an oline in a newly implemented blocking scheme and a bottom tier group of receivers ?
Why bring up Andrew Luck and RG3 as if Miami has it's own version of Pierre Garcon and Reggie Wayne? |
This and I can't help but think all these comments are massively different if a kick goes three yards to the right.
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| ovaw8lover wrote: | | My only issue with Tanney is the babying going on. It reminds me of Chad Henne. It is very tough to watch. This offense is no better than the one coached under Sparano. They are boring as heck to watch. I do not care if Tanney is a rookie. Luck and RG3's offenses are fun to watch. You cannot become the team you want to be by not implementing the strategy. What happened to the up tempo offense? What happened to the throwing the ball around. We know the team is bad, let the record reflect it. Where are the screen passes, the draw plays? That is what I want. I do not want to see power football although that is what the current talent is designed for. This team should be building on what they hope to be not settling for the status quo. |
The tempo offense wasn't there when Tanny was in during the pre-season either. Seemed like he wasn't able to handle it so every time he stepped into a game the offense slowed down. |
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