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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject: The Holder Reply with quote

I wonder if RG3 has ever held for FG's .. I think he should be working on that and maybe by next year -he could do it.. Imagine the fear he would instill.. come out of the hold and roll out ,, run , throw .. Awesome threat.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not likely but fun idea Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Rocca is actually doing fine at that for the time being. Of course Rocca needs to work on getting his punts off faster. Not that it's all on him, blocking is a problem also, but IMO it's a combination of both.

I don't envision Griffin being our future holder, I see Cousins being our future holder when Rocca is no longer on the team. Whenever that may be.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not likely but fun idea Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
I think Rocca is actually doing fine at that for the time being. Of course Rocca needs to work on getting his punts off faster. Not that it's all on him, blocking is a problem also, but IMO it's a combination of both.

I don't envision Griffin being our future holder, I see Cousins being our future holder when Rocca is no longer on the team. Whenever that may be.


Cousins ! brilliant==good idea.. I like that .. He'd probably love to be in a game anyway he could get it --like Theismann returning punts etc.
I didn't mean this as a criticism of Rocca -- he's really good --but not a threat to run or pass..
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RSkinGM wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
I think Rocca is actually doing fine at that for the time being. Of course Rocca needs to work on getting his punts off faster. Not that it's all on him, blocking is a problem also, but IMO it's a combination of both.

I don't envision Griffin being our future holder, I see Cousins being our future holder when Rocca is no longer on the team. Whenever that may be.


Cousins ! brilliant==good idea.. I like that .. He'd probably love to be in a game anyway he could get it --like Theismann returning punts etc.
I didn't mean this as a criticism of Rocca -- he's really good --but not a threat to run or pass..
Oh, I know. I just scooted off course there for a minute to Rocca! Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the current state of the officiating, do we really want Griffin on the ground worrying about getting the hold down while some defensive lineman comes in to clean his clock with a blindside?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, cause the holder is always the one to get creamed.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So we go w/ the Cousins idea ,, however, I really NEVER remember a holder being hurt --but it sure could happen.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike23md wrote:
Exactly, cause the holder is always the one to get creamed.


If an opponent had their franchise QB as a holder, are you telling me that you wouldn't want to get an extra lick in on him?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woz wrote:
mike23md wrote:
Exactly, cause the holder is always the one to get creamed.


If an opponent had their franchise QB as a holder, are you telling me that you wouldn't want to get an extra lick in on him?


Did the starting qb being the holder work out well for the Cowboys?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woz wrote:
mike23md wrote:
Exactly, cause the holder is always the one to get creamed.


If an opponent had their franchise QB as a holder, are you telling me that you wouldn't want to get an extra lick in on him?


This was not meant to be sarcastic. The holder is always the one to get hit hard when there is a blocked kick in the works. The kicker has penalties in place for roughing the kicker and running into the kicker.

The holder has nothing.

So yes of course, you will try to give him a good lick if you can.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sassan11 wrote:
Woz wrote:
mike23md wrote:
Exactly, cause the holder is always the one to get creamed.


If an opponent had their franchise QB as a holder, are you telling me that you wouldn't want to get an extra lick in on him?


Did the starting qb being the holder work out well for the Cowboys?


Actually Romo was not the full time holder for when he muffed the holds in Seattle.

He just wanted to be in on the play in case anything went wrong, which it did, and he couldnt get a hold of the ball to actually do something with it other than run it.
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