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green24


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich51 wrote:
green24 wrote:
jetsfan4life51 wrote:
I am ashamed of everyone's opinion on Harris.

I am too. Laughing I think he's the second best player on our defense.


You guys are probably right, Harris might be their second best defensive player. I can't think of anybody better except maybe Cro on good days, but I'm into stats and his have really dropped off the last two years. In 2009 he was 3rd among ILBs in tackles. He was 16th in 2010 and 17th last year. If you include all MLB those numbers drop to 5th, 25 th, and 30th. So just going by those stats I can see why he would be considered overpaid.

Harris was also the only player in the NFL last season to have 5+ sacks and 4+ INTs.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich51 wrote:
green24 wrote:
jetsfan4life51 wrote:
I am ashamed of everyone's opinion on Harris.

I am too. Laughing I think he's the second best player on our defense.


You guys are probably right, Harris might be their second best defensive player. I can't think of anybody better except maybe Cro on good days, but I'm into stats and his have really dropped off the last two years. In 2009 he was 3rd among ILBs in tackles. He was 16th in 2010 and 17th last year. If you include all MLB those numbers drop to 5th, 25 th, and 30th. So just going by those stats I can see why he would be considered overpaid.


Tackles are a terrible way to judge production for any player. A tackle 10 yards down the field is the same as a tackle a yard away from the LoS
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harris isn't overpaid he's just a terrible fit with Bart Scott

I want to see Harris and Davis who compliment each other better, Harris can blitz more and defend the run while Davis works in coverage more

Cromartie is only over paid cause we went after Nnamdi

Holmes is way over paid, Braylon should have gotten the deal better yet Cruz should be our #1 but Rex had to open up his big [inappropriate/removed] mouth
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingOfTheHill84 wrote:
Harris isn't overpaid he's just a terrible fit with Bart Scott

I want to see Harris and Davis who compliment each other better, Harris can blitz more and defend the run while Davis works in coverage more

Cromartie is only over paid cause we went after Nnamdi

Holmes is way over paid, Braylon should have gotten the deal better yet Cruz should be our #1 but Rex had to open up his big [inappropriate/removed] mouth


Harris should not be blitzing. He should be sitting in the middle of the field spying on the QB/clogging up holes. Harris is actually very good at defending the pass, just not good at playing man.

And Rex had nothing to do with Cruz not being cut.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harris is above average in every aspect of his game.

He is a great blitzer, great against the run, great recognition against the screen, not bad in zone but has trouble against speed guys in man. Really no flaws to his game, just doesn't have Patrick Willis speed/athleticism but who does?
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jetsfan4life51 wrote:
Harris is above average in every aspect of his game.

He is a great blitzer, great against the run, great recognition against the screen, not bad in zone but has trouble against speed guys in man. Really no flaws to his game, just doesn't have Patrick Willis speed/athleticism but who does?


Harris is slow as $#!T but aside from that you make a good point. I think he got the #1 spot because ILBs have become extremely devalued in this league. OLBs get all the hype especially in the 3-4 scheme. I dont not like Harris, the dudes a baller, how Calvin Pace isn't #1 on this list is honestly astounding.
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teamorange wrote:
KingOfTheHill84 wrote:
Harris isn't overpaid he's just a terrible fit with Bart Scott

I want to see Harris and Davis who compliment each other better, Harris can blitz more and defend the run while Davis works in coverage more

Cromartie is only over paid cause we went after Nnamdi

Holmes is way over paid, Braylon should have gotten the deal better yet Cruz should be our #1 but Rex had to open up his big [inappropriate/removed] mouth


Harris should not be blitzing. He should be sitting in the middle of the field spying on the QB/clogging up holes. Harris is actually very good at defending the pass, just not good at playing man.

And Rex had nothing to do with Cruz not being cut.


The Giants were going to stash Cruz on their practice squad and Rex, after Cruz lite us up, said at the press conference if the Giants cut him I'll love him on this football team, so they kept him on the 53 man roster and the rest is history
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