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MaddHatter
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | | Still don't agree with it. The amount of the fine tells me that Goodell (or whoever makes the choice of the dollar amount) was very borderline on his decision to make this call. |
No - he's just a first time offender and the price is already preset...
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waremd
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:20 am Post subject: |
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That was in no way a legal hit, he blindsided the defender and thrusted his body upward leading with his damn helmet. I said this when it happened and this was just a god awful call. If there was a video you could put on, on how not to hit a player across the middle, this would be it. If he would have just kept his shoulders forward and not stopped, planted his feet, and thrusted upwards with his head then it would be legal, but the fact he did not was clearly illegal and he should have been fined more then this or suspended.
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JOEJOE
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| waremd wrote: | | That was in no way a legal hit, he blindsided the defender and thrusted his body upward leading with his damn helmet. I said this when it happened and this was just a god awful call. If there was a video you could put on, on how not to hit a player across the middle, this would be it. If he would have just kept his shoulders forward and not stopped, planted his feet, and thrusted upwards with his head then it would be legal, but the fact he did not was clearly illegal and he should have been fined more then this or suspended. |
or just kicked out of the league entirely, and be banished from any AFL team or CFL team, and if he has any kids they will be banned from any football activities also.... Does that sound as outrageous and completely out of line as you saying he should be suspended for this hit?, give me a break waremd.
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driftwood
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: |
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as a fan of neither the cowboys or seattle... i thought the hit was fantastic
& 21k is no big deal at all for an NFL player... totally worth it IMO |
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Sacks98
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Had the roles been reversed i wouldn't of been complaining this is football it's physical this isn't flag football Tate can't just stop and think how he is going to block somebody.
| driftwood wrote: | as a fan of neither the cowboys or seattle... i thought the hit was fantastic
& 21k is no big deal at all for an NFL player... totally worth it IMO |
True but that's probably a whole pay check for him being a 2nd round pick.
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JOEJOE
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Sacks98 wrote: | Had the roles been reversed i wouldn't of been complaining this is football it's physical this isn't flag football Tate can't just stop and think how he is going to block somebody.
| driftwood wrote: | as a fan of neither the cowboys or seattle... i thought the hit was fantastic
& 21k is no big deal at all for an NFL player... totally worth it IMO |
True but that's probably a whole pay check for him being a 2nd round pick. |
Pretty close, here's the details of Tate's contract from Rotoworld.com.
| Tate's contract details wrote: | | 7/28/2010: Signed a four-year, $3,261,500 contract. The deal contains $1.471 million guaranteed, including a $1 million signing bonus. 2012: $540,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent |
If you divide the $540,000. by 16 games that comes out to a game check of $33,750., so that fine cost Tate 2/3 of his game check, Ouch!
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SaveourSonics
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This kinda play has happened to the Seahawks. Jon Ryan got blasted against the Bears not really even close to the play and there was no suspension or fine, and none of us complained about it. We just laughed and said Ryan got nailed.
You'd think Sean Lee was the son of some of these posters 
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56GiantPens66
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I guess Tate should of yelled"Heads up 7 up!" before attempting to block Lee.
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Sacks98
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | This kinda play has happened to the Seahawks. Jon Ryan got blasted against the Bears not really even close to the play and there was no suspension or fine, and none of us complained about it. We just laughed and said Ryan got nailed.
You'd think Sean Lee was the son of some of these posters |
You don't see a big deal when Sidney Rice took a helmet to helmet on the field wheres the all powerful Goodell to fine that player?!
I could care less to be honest but if your going to fine Golden Tate for a great block then you sure as heck better fine a guy going for someones head.
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khodder
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| driftwood wrote: | as a fan of neither the cowboys or seattle... i thought the hit was fantastic
& 21k is no big deal at all for an NFL player... totally worth it IMO |
Oh hell yeah it was a great hit, knocked Lee right off his feet. It was just, but rule, illegal.
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Sciz
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | | This kinda play has happened to the Seahawks. Jon Ryan got blasted against the Bears not really even close to the play and there was no suspension or fine, and none of us complained about it. We just laughed and said Ryan got nailed. |
That hit was shoulder to shoulder. There was nothing remotely illegal about that hit even though it was against a defenseless player.
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Sacks98
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| Sciz wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | | This kinda play has happened to the Seahawks. Jon Ryan got blasted against the Bears not really even close to the play and there was no suspension or fine, and none of us complained about it. We just laughed and said Ryan got nailed. |
That hit was shoulder to shoulder. There was nothing remotely illegal about that hit even though it was against a defenseless player. |
What was wrong with Tates hit again? I didn't know you could be blind sided from a player you were covering like 4 feet away from you and even though Tate went Parallel he got right in front of him before making the hit.
Tate never came from behind or from the side to hit him.
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STLRamsFan99
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:52 am Post subject: |
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That was an amazing block by Tate. Partly Lee's fault for not being aware and looking up field.
Tate didn't really make helmet to helmet contact until his head whipped and hit Tate's. |
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Sciz
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| Sacks98 wrote: | What was wrong with Tates hit again? I didn't know you could be blind sided from a player you were covering like 4 feet away from you and even though Tate went Parallel he got right in front of him before making the hit.
Tate never came from behind or from the side to hit him. |
The rules say nothing about from what direction the hit comes from. The word they use is "approach." Had Tate "approached" Lee from the front, then it would have been fine, but he didn't.
I'm just going to keep referring people to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC7YWOu2P4o
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Sacks98
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Sciz wrote: | | Sacks98 wrote: | What was wrong with Tates hit again? I didn't know you could be blind sided from a player you were covering like 4 feet away from you and even though Tate went Parallel he got right in front of him before making the hit.
Tate never came from behind or from the side to hit him. |
The rules say nothing about from what direction the hit comes from. The word they use is "approach." Had Tate "approached" Lee from the front, then it would have been fine, but he didn't.
I'm just going to keep referring people to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC7YWOu2P4o |
First of all that is done by a Dallas guy so he is going to be biased secondly Tate went Parallel got in front of him and destroyed him not Tates fault Lee isn't looking straight.
Not Defenseless or blind sided at all Tate was in front of him.
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