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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:37 pm    Post subject: News Flash Reply with quote

Watching the Bears/Packers game it is becoming crystal clear that Backus is the best LT in the NFC North. What do you think about that?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: News Flash Reply with quote

Big Cat wrote:
Watching the Bears/Packers game it is becoming crystal clear that Backus is the best LT in the NFC North. What do you think about that?


I've been impressed with what I've seen from Kalil in Minnesota so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: News Flash Reply with quote

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Big Cat wrote:
Watching the Bears/Packers game it is becoming crystal clear that Backus is the best LT in the NFC North. What do you think about that?


I've been impressed with what I've seen from Kalil in Minnesota so far.


Long term I would vote Kalil, but for right now I would have to vote Backus.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lions might have them best secondary as well!!!! Hopefully we win this week so we can lead the NFC North!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.


Newhouse is the worst on their line and Bears have had the worst o line for a while now
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.


Last year Chicago was tied for 19th most sacks in the league and Green Bay was tied for 27th.

Hardly what I would call "Very good pass rushing teams."
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.


Last year Chicago was tied for 19th most sacks in the league and Green Bay was tied for 27th.

Hardly what I would call "Very good pass rushing teams."


Sorry I thought this was 2012.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.


Last year Chicago was tied for 19th most sacks in the league and Green Bay was tied for 27th.

Hardly what I would call "Very good pass rushing teams."


Sorry I thought this was 2012.


You're right, lets say definitively how good they are with only a game and a half to judge them by.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.


Last year Chicago was tied for 19th most sacks in the league and Green Bay was tied for 27th.

Hardly what I would call "Very good pass rushing teams."


Sorry I thought this was 2012.


You're right, lets say definitively how good they are with only a game and a half to judge them by.


Judging it by the years prior too

GB was 2nd in 2010. 2011 was a down year in terms of pass rushing for them

2009 they were like 10th isn



2008 was last time they were both bad before last year.



They are good on annual basis.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.


Last year Chicago was tied for 19th most sacks in the league and Green Bay was tied for 27th.

Hardly what I would call "Very good pass rushing teams."


Sorry I thought this was 2012.


You're right, lets say definitively how good they are with only a game and a half to judge them by.


Judging it by the years prior too

GB was 2nd in 2010. 2011 was a down year in terms of pass rushing for them

2009 they were like 10th isn



2008 was last time they were both bad before last year.



They are good on annual basis.


You criticize me using last years stats (two games ago) then bring up stats from three years ago (10th still isn't VERY good btw) to try to strengthen your argument? Your hypocrisy is once again unmatched.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.


Last year Chicago was tied for 19th most sacks in the league and Green Bay was tied for 27th.

Hardly what I would call "Very good pass rushing teams."


Sorry I thought this was 2012.


You're right, lets say definitively how good they are with only a game and a half to judge them by.


Judging it by the years prior too

GB was 2nd in 2010. 2011 was a down year in terms of pass rushing for them

2009 they were like 10th isn



2008 was last time they were both bad before last year.



They are good on annual basis.


You criticize me using last years stats (two games ago) then bring up stats from three years ago (10th still isn't VERY good btw) to try to strengthen your argument? Your hypocrisy is once again unmatched.



You are obviously wrong and simply wont admit it.

You probably thought Russell Wilson was going to Pro Bowl after 1 pre-season game too.

This whole OP is overreaction 101
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.


Last year Chicago was tied for 19th most sacks in the league and Green Bay was tied for 27th.

Hardly what I would call "Very good pass rushing teams."


Sorry I thought this was 2012.


You're right, lets say definitively how good they are with only a game and a half to judge them by.


Judging it by the years prior too

GB was 2nd in 2010. 2011 was a down year in terms of pass rushing for them

2009 they were like 10th isn



2008 was last time they were both bad before last year.



They are good on annual basis.


You criticize me using last years stats (two games ago) then bring up stats from three years ago (10th still isn't VERY good btw) to try to strengthen your argument? Your hypocrisy is once again unmatched.



You are obviously wrong and simply wont admit it.

You probably thought Russell Wilson was going to Pro Bowl after 1 pre-season game too.

This whole OP is overreaction 101


What am I wrong about? Until tonight, there hasn't been anything in the last 17 regular season games to say these teams were "VERY good pass rushing teams" like you claimed they were.

I never thought Russell Wilson was going to be a Pro Bowler after one preseason game, way to put words in my mouth, but I'm excited to see what he can do.

You're so delusional on all topics you talk about I'm just going to do my best to give you the same treatment I gave Go_LiOnS. I'm gonna try to skip reading your posts and try to avoid responding to them. You don't bring any value to any discussion.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they are very good pass rushing teams- they both have great individual pass rushers, but the rest of both lines leave a lot to be desired (BJ Raji is probably the best after Clay and Peppers, he isn't bad but certainly leaves a lot to be desired IMO). Last years stats are the most relevant stats to cite this early in the season.

They looked better tonight because of the OL's
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

Come on now.

GB and Chi are two VERY good pass rushing teams.


Last year Chicago was tied for 19th most sacks in the league and Green Bay was tied for 27th.

Hardly what I would call "Very good pass rushing teams."


Sorry I thought this was 2012.


You're right, lets say definitively how good they are with only a game and a half to judge them by.


Judging it by the years prior too

GB was 2nd in 2010. 2011 was a down year in terms of pass rushing for them

2009 they were like 10th isn



2008 was last time they were both bad before last year.



They are good on annual basis.


You criticize me using last years stats (two games ago) then bring up stats from three years ago (10th still isn't VERY good btw) to try to strengthen your argument? Your hypocrisy is once again unmatched.



You are obviously wrong and simply wont admit it.

You probably thought Russell Wilson was going to Pro Bowl after 1 pre-season game too.

This whole OP is overreaction 101


What am I wrong about? Until tonight, there hasn't been anything in the last 17 regular season games to say these teams were "VERY good pass rushing teams" like you claimed they were.

I never thought Russell Wilson was going to be a Pro Bowler after one preseason game, way to put words in my mouth, but I'm excited to see what he can do.

You're so delusional on all topics you talk about I'm just going to do my best to give you the same treatment I gave Go_LiOnS. I'm gonna try to skip reading your posts and try to avoid responding to them. You don't bring any value to any discussion.


Was GB not 2nd year before last? Just run away with tail between legs for being wrong.
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