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GmenSeattle


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aceinthehouse wrote:
I'm willing to bet, that the loss or absence of RB Brandon Jacobs will cost the Giants a Playoff birth.

I've been seeing a lot of 12-4...11-5 or even 10-6 predictions from pundits on the Giants defending their crown.

But I'll even sweeten the deal.

I'm willing to bet, that not only will the loss of Brandon Jacobs cost the Giants a Playoff birth, but will prevent the Giants from even reaching .500 on their overall record.


How would you quantify the wins/losses being directly related to Jacobs? This isn't track and field there's 52 guys on the roster.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is a good write up of the game. Who played well for us and who didn't.

http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/07/new-york-giants-vs-dallas-cowboys-nfl-week-one-game-analysis/

I remember seeing at least 3 Giants linemen on the ground when we were trying to put it in after Boley's INT. How is Bradshaw supposed to score when his own linemen can't stay on their feet?

I also agree with this:

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I don't want to hear the talk that somehow it's a negative sign that rookie David Wilson may have shown some emotion when he reportedly teared up on the sideline after his fumble. That is something Giants fans should take as one of the big positives in this game because all I see from Wilson is a guy who's extremely committed to being successful in this league and very committed to making it happen. Count me in as very impressed with the type of prospect the Giants have in Wilson.


And stand by my prediciton that Wilson will have more rushing yards than Bradshaw this year. Going to be hard if he fumbles it and Tom benches him though. Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aceinthehouse wrote:
Gmen wrote:
Sheesh, you guys are still arguing with this guy? Even non-Giants fans in the NFL General forum had a laugh at his proclamation that Jacobs will be missed.

I guess I'll be the one to do this. How about a sig bet. If Jacobs has a better statistical season than Wilson, I'll wear a sig of your choice for a month. If Wilson has a better statistical season, you wear a sig of my choice for a month.

The criteria :

Rushing yards
Rushing yards per attempt
Receiving yards
Total touchdowns
Fumbles

The player that does better in more of the categories wins. The only caveat being that the bet is off if one of the players misses more than 4 games due to injury. Deal?


A bunch of neatly written nonsense.

I'm not making that bet. Because I don't think that this year's team will be as good as last year's team. But Brandon Jacobs and his 571 yards (40th in the league) and 3.8 yards per carry (2nd worst of the top 40), will most definitely not be the reason. The offensive line looks porous, the secondary is banged up, even our defensive line looked stagnant. So the Giants may very well miss the playoffs, especially with their schedule. But I'm not going to give you the opportunity to stand on your high horse and proclaim that it's because we were without Jacobs.

And once again I find it amusing that Jacobs is so great, but will be losing carries to Kendall Hunter and Lamichael James. If he is as good as you believe he is, why isn't he a feature back somewhere, leading his team to the promise land? Yeah, way to back out like a wuss.

How about this. Since Jacob's 571 yards and 3.8 yards per carry average carried the Giants last season, how about we bet that Wilson beats those numbers this year? No? Of course not. Because you yourself don't believe the crap you're claiming.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL @ Wilson crying being a big positive
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaddHatter wrote:
LOL @ Wilson crying being a big positive


A positive? No.

Some major negative that we should all hold over his head? Also a no.

Sure it's embarassing for the kid, but what it shows more than anything else is that he genuinely cares. He is a young guy. It's easy for emotions like anger/frustration/sadness to get confused. He has waited his whole life to be in the NFL and he felt like he embarassed himself and let his team down. Which he did. But you can do a lot with a kid that cares so deeply about his play and not letting his team down.

I'll take that over the guys who make the same mistakes over and over and couldn't seem to care less.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaddHatter wrote:
LOL @ Wilson crying being a big positive


If I remember correctly, most of the Cowboys forum was applauding TO when he straight up cried in front of the media in the famous "that's my quarterback" speech.
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But why not maintain that dominance? You guys were there...

Let me give you my personal opinion, on what I think has happened.
It all started with the release of the coke machine in Brandon Jacobs.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaddHatter wrote:
LOL @ Wilson crying being a big positive


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And how are any of those examples of "big positives" - as you so cleverly pointed out, Romo haters have used that image to mock him his entire career. And I've openly mocked TO myself as have most of you - but now one of your own does it and a writer calls it a "big positive" and you applaud him.

Im not mocking Wilson - heck I think hell have a decent career - but I find the comment written to be hillarious. Of all the positives you could pull you go with that?!?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYGiantsman10 wrote:
MaddHatter wrote:
LOL @ Wilson crying being a big positive



This picture will be Romo's legacy.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Matts4313 wrote:
Giants Fans - Here are your sigs. Please check in here:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=498312&start=105&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=



1.NYGiantsman10
2. 56GiantPens66
3. Gmen
4. Shockey1979
5. IR0NM1KE
6. bagh



7. GmenSeattle
8. Save The Hero
9. redsoxsuck05
10. scrimmage
11. LikesHAM
12. Biggsam49



13. Acgott
14. bck1195
15. Dkebones
16. Minutemancl
17. R2theDizzlE
18. Xfactor



19. Gmen1985
20. maes
21. percellovegiant
22. titwio
23. njLawman5016
24. manning92
25. GEE MEN



Still some folks who havent put their sig on...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bagh
Scrimmage
Bigsam
R2Dizzle
Gmen1985
Maes
Percell
NJlaw
manning92
geemen

Have all not sigged up
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matts4313 wrote:
Bagh
Scrimmage
Bigsam
R2Dizzle
Gmen1985
Maes
Percell
NJlaw
manning92
geemen

Have all not sigged up
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have they posted since the game? They may not live on the board like we do
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matts4313 wrote:
Bagh
Scrimmage
Bigsam
R2Dizzle
Gmen1985
Maes
Percell
NJlaw
manning92
geemen

Have all not sigged up


Ive been sigged up since about 5 or 6 on Thursday. And I've made several posts since putting on this thing.

I imagine you've made a few mistakes, as I'd be shocked if all those people left it off. Check your facts.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biggsam49 wrote:
Matts4313 wrote:
Bagh
Scrimmage
Bigsam
R2Dizzle
Gmen1985
Maes
Percell
NJlaw
manning92
geemen

Have all not sigged up


Ive been sigged up since about 5 or 6 on Thursday. And I've made several posts since putting on this thing.

I imagine you've made a few mistakes, as I'd be shocked if all those people left it off. Check your facts.


..How odd. Your sig does not show up for me on this page:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=14512794#14512794

I just skimmed through the first few pages and pulled names. Most everyones is showing.. but yours is not.
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ive been sigged up yo, i'm a man of my word. i believe i was the first one to do so.
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