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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:11 am    Post subject: Sabotage's 2013 Mock Draft Thread 4 Rounds v1.8 11/2/12 Reply with quote



The draft order of picks 1-20 is determined by win %, strength of schedule, divisional record, and conference record in that order. Picks 21-32 feature teams that would be in the playoffs if the season ended today, and projections are based on record and strength of schedule/seeding.

Round One:
1. Kansas City Chiefs // Eugene Smith, QB West Virginia
2. Carolina Panthers // Starlite Lotulelei, DT Utah
3. Jacksonville Jaguars // Damontre Moore, DE Texas A&M
4. Cleveland Browns // Bjoern Werner, DE Florida State University
5. New Orleans Saints // Luke Joeckel, OT Texas A&M
6. St. Louis Rams (From Washington) // Johnathan Hankins, DT Ohio State
7. St. Louis Rams // Taylor Lewan, OT Michigan
8. Tennessee Titans // Chance Warmack, OG Alabama
9. New York Jets // Tyler Wilson, QB Arkansas
10. Cincinnati Bengals // Manti Te’O, MLB Notre Dame
11. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // DeMarcus Milliner, CB Alabama
12. San Diego Chargers // Xavier Rhodes, CB Florida State University
13. Buffalo Bills // Zac Dysert, QB Miami (OH.)
14. Oakland Raiders // Jarvis Jones, OLB Georgia
15. Detroit Lions // Samuel Montgomery, DE Louisiana State University
16. Dallas Cowboys // Barrett Jones, OL Alabama
17. Philadelphia Eagles // Eric Reid, S Louisiana State University
18. Seattle Seahawks // Keenan Allen, WR California
19. Arizona Cardinals // Jake Matthews, OT Texas A&M
20. Pittsburgh Steelers // Dion Jordan, OLB Oregon
21. Indianapolis Colts // Barkevious Mingo, OLB Louisiana State University
22. Miami Dolphins // Justin Hunter, WR Tennessee
23. Denver Broncos // Louis Nix III, DT Norte Dame
24. Minnesota Vikings // Sheldon Richardson, DT Missouri
25. New England Patriots // Kawann Short, DT Purdue
26. Green Bay Packers // Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame
27. Baltimore Ravens // Alec Ogletree, ILB Georgia
28. New York Giants // Johnthan Banks, CB Mississippi State
29. San Francisco 49ers // Kenny Vaccaro, S Texas
30. Chicago Bears // Eric Fisher, OT Central Michigan
31. Houston Texans // John Jenkins, DT Georgia
32. Atlanta Falcons // Giovani Bernard, RB North Carolina

Round Two:
33. Kansas City Chiefs // Kevin Minter, ILB Louisiana State University
34. Carolina Panthers // Tony Jefferson, S Oklahoma
35. Jacksonville Jaguars // Brandon Coleman, WR Rutgers
36. Cleveland Browns // ** Used in Supplemental Draft **
37. New Orleans Saints // ** Forfeited due to Bountygate **
38. Washington Redskins // Jordan Poyer, CB Oregon State
39. St. Louis Rams // Terrance Williams, WR Baylor
40. Tennessee Titans // Alex Okafor, DE Texas
41. New York Jets // Ezekiel Ansah, OLB Brigham Young University
42. Cincinnati Bengals // Andre Ellington, RB Clemson
43. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // Matthew Elam, S Florida
44. San Diego Chargers // Dallas Thomas, OT/G Tennessee
45. Buffalo Bills // Robert Woods, WR Southern California
46. Cincinnati Bengals (From Oakland) // T.J. McDonald, S Southern California
47. Detroit Lions // Justin Gilbert, CB Oklahoma State
48. Dallas Cowboys // Jesse Williams, DT Alabama
49. Philadelphia Eagles // Cordarrelle Patterson, WR Tennessee
50. Seattle Seahawks // William Sutton, DT Arizona State
51. Arizona Cardinals // Andrew Jackson, ILB Western Kentucky
52. Pittsburgh Steelers // C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE Iowa
53. Miami Dolphins (From Indianapolis) // Zach Ertz, TE Stanford
54. Miami Dolphins // David Amerson, CB North Carolina State
55. Denver Broncos // Zac Stacy, RB Vanderbilt
56. Minnesota Vikings // Aaron Dobson, WR Marshall
57. New England Patriots // Cornellius Carradine, DE Florida State University
58. Green Bay Packers // Jawan Jamison, RB Rutgers
59. Baltimore Ravens // Margus Hunt, DL SMU
60. New York Giants // Mark Jackson, OT Glennville State
61. San Francisco 49ers // Sharrif Floyd, DE Florida
62. Chicago Bears // Michael Mauti, MLB Penn State
63. Houston Texans // DeAndre Hopkins, WR Clemson
64. Atlanta Falcons // Corey Lemonier, DE Clemson

Round Three:
65. Kansas City Chiefs // Logan Ryan, CB Rutgers
66. San Francisco 49ers (From Carolina) // Nickell Robey, CB Southern California
67. Jacksonville Jaguars // Ryan Nassib, QB Syracuse
68. Cleveland Browns // Robert Lester, S Alabama
69. New Orleans Saints // Sylvester Williams, DT North Carolina
70. Washington Redskins // Zeke Motta, S Notre Dame
71. St. Louis Rams // Eddie Lacy, RB Alabama
72. Tennessee Titans // Baccari Rambo, S Georgia
73. New York Jets // Da’Rick Rogers, Tennessee Tech
74. Cincinnati Bengals // Khaseem Greene, OLB Rutgers
75. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // Kwame Geathers, DT Georgia
76. San Diego Chargers // Nico Johnson, ILB Alabama
77. Buffalo Bills // A.J. Klein, MLB Iowa State
78. Oakland Raiders // Akeem Spence, DT Illinois
79. Detroit Lions // Jelani Jenkins, OLB Florida
80. Dallas Cowboys // C.J. Mosley, OLB Alabama
81. Philadelphia Eagles // Justin Pugh, OT Syracuse
82. Seattle Seahawks // Chase Thomas, OLB Stanford
83. Arizona Cardinals // Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB Connecticut
84. Pittsburgh Steelers // Carrington Byndom, CB Texas
85. Indianapolis Colts // Jonathan Cooper, OG North Carolina
86. Miami Dolphins // Tavon Austin, WR West Virginia
87. Denver Broncos // Shayne Skov, MLB Stanford
88. Minnesota Vikings // D.J. Fluker, OT/G Alabama
89. New England Patriots // Shawn Williams, S Georgia
90. Green Bay Packers // Oday Aboushi, OT Virginia
91. Baltimore Ravens // Duke Williams, S Nevada
92. New York Giants // Quanterus Smith, DE Western Kentucky
93. San Francisco 49ers // Alvin Bailey, OG Arkansas
94. Miami Dolphins (From Chicago) // Micah Hyde, S Iowa
95. Houston Texans // Gabe Jackson, OG Mississippi State
96. Atlanta Falcons // Jordan Reed, TE Florida

Round Four:
97. Kansas City Chiefs // Levine Toilolo, TE Stanford
98. Carolina Panthers // Quinton Patton, WR Louisiana Tech
99. Jacksonville Jaguars // Mario Benavides, C Louisville
100. Cleveland Browns // Dion Sims, TE Michigan State
101. New Orleans Saints // Sean Porter, OLB Texas A&M
102. Washington Redskins // Jake Knott, ILB Iowa State
103. St. Louis Rams // Arthur Brown, LB Kansas State
104. Tennessee Titans // Xavier Nixon, OT Florida
105. New York Jets // Ricky Wagner, OT Wisconsin
106. Cincinnati Bengals // John Simon, DE Ohio State
107. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // James Gayle, DE Virginia Tech
108. San Diego Chargers // Travis Howard, S Ohio State
109. Buffalo Bills // Gerald Hodges, OLB Penn State
110. Oakland Raiders // Desmond Trufant, CB Washington
111. Detroit Lions // Stepfan Taylor, RB Stanford
112. Dallas Cowboys // Matthew Barkley, QB Southern California
113. Philadelphia Eagles // Gavin Escobar, TE San Diego State
114. Seattle Seahawks // Joseph Fauria, TE UCLA
115. Arizona Cardinals // Braxston Cave, C Notre Dame
116. Pittsburgh Steelers // Travis Johnson, ILB San Jose State
117. Indianapolis Colts // William Gholston, DE Michigan State
118. Miami Dolphins // Datone Jones, DE UCLA
119. Denver Broncos // Leon McFadden, CB San Diego State
120. Minnesota Vikings // Terry Hawthorne, CB Illinois
121. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (From New England) // Marcus Davis, WR Virginia Tech
122. Green Bay Packers // Jamie Collins, OLB Southern Mississippi
123. Baltimore Ravens // Brennan Williams, OT North Carolina
124. New York Giants // Chris Gragg, TE Arkansas
125. San Francisco 49ers // Michael Williams, TE Alabama
126. Chicago Bears // Larry Warford, OG Kentucky
127. Houston Texans // Travis Long, ILB Washington State
128. Atlanta Falcons // Jordan Hill, DT Penn State

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a big fan of Dallas Thomas for the Bears…certainly not as a LT and as much as I feel he could be a good guard at the next level and don’t think he is a sure enough bet at a position to warrant taking him in the 1st round…the Bears now need to focus on getting younger and adding playmakers on D…in the 1st round I would much rather have DT Kawann Short who would be the perfect rotational DT in our scheme…then in the 2nd round take LB C.J Mosley who would start the turnover of our LBs.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: Sabotage's 2013 Mock Draft Thread 3 Rounds 9/7/12 Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:

32. Atlanta Falcons // Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame

63. Atlanta Falcons // Travis Frederick, OG Wisconsin

95. Atlanta Falcons // Giovani Bernard, RB North Carolina


If we pick up a DT in free agency, this looks like an excellent draft. Eifert looks like a fine player (even if I would prefer Short), Frederick would complete a fine interior front with Blalock and Konz (with Hawley as the 4th IOL) and Bernard could platoon effectively with Rodgers with Snelling getting some goal-line looks.

My only concern is that we have never picked a 2 year starter under the present regime. The juniors we have selected (Julio Jones, Dominique Franks, Curtis Lofton) all had three years of tape to assess. While a 5 year data set may not be sufficient, it is worth bearing in mind as regards Bernard (a RS Soph).

If you continued to Round 4, we'd be looking at a corner and a linebacker (we will likely receive a 4th round compensatory selection for Lofton).

Oh, and I like the slot we're picking in... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Sabotage's 2013 Mock Draft Thread 3 Rounds 9/7/12 Reply with quote

DrawABlank wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:

32. Atlanta Falcons // Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame

63. Atlanta Falcons // Travis Frederick, OG Wisconsin

95. Atlanta Falcons // Giovani Bernard, RB North Carolina


If we pick up a DT in free agency, this looks like an excellent draft. Eifert looks like a fine player (even if I would prefer Short), Frederick would complete a fine interior front with Blalock and Konz (with Hawley as the 4th IOL) and Bernard could platoon effectively with Rodgers with Snelling getting some goal-line looks.

My only concern is that we have never picked a 2 year starter under the present regime. The juniors we have selected (Julio Jones, Dominique Franks, Curtis Lofton) all had three years of tape to assess. While a 5 year data set may not be sufficient, it is worth bearing in mind as regards Bernard (a RS Soph).

If you continued to Round 4, we'd be looking at a corner and a linebacker (we will likely receive a 4th round compensatory selection for Lofton).

Oh, and I like the slot we're picking in... Very Happy


Giovani was a toss up..I could have gone linebacker, but thought the fresh legs and different running style compared to say, a Quizz, was at that time too good to pass up. Also, I want to see how Dent and Co. play before LB is addressed before the 4th, same with corner...I think I actually went straight BPA from my board, to where the Falcons were picking. I understand it is all offense and skill positions, but all seemed to fit quite well.
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That draft for the Patriots would be INSANE.

I don't even like Hunt that much, but third round value for him is awesome. And that's so low for Gilbert, but he would be deadly as a Pat.
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Love the Lattimore and Jenkins picks.

After that not so much. Don't think CB will be a need and pretty sure center won't be.

Gholston at 51.

BPA at 82
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Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote:
Love the Lattimore and Jenkins picks.

After that not so much. Don't think CB will be a need and pretty sure center won't be.

Gholston at 51.

BPA at 82


I would much rather feel comfrotable flipping Lemonier to 51, I don't think Gholston will fit the RDE (if thats where you wanted him), I think he is more that 5T and LDE.
After this week, Pocic will be replaced, with someone else (hard when the picks after him are CB, LB, RB)
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rabbisson wrote:
That draft for the Patriots would be INSANE.

I don't even like Hunt that much, but third round value for him is awesome. And that's so low for Gilbert, but he would be deadly as a Pat.


I don't like Hunt all that much neither, but he could play that Elephant DE role (although he really isn't that big) pretty well in that system. As for Gilbert, it is only a 5 pick swing to where he is at on my board at the moment. This year will determine if he stays that high however.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Sabotage's 2013 Mock Draft Thread 3 Rounds 9/7/12 Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:

Giovani was a toss up..I could have gone linebacker, but thought the fresh legs and different running style compared to say, a Quizz, was at that time too good to pass up. Also, I want to see how Dent and Co. play before LB is addressed before the 4th, same with corner...I think I actually went straight BPA from my board, to where the Falcons were picking. I understand it is all offense and skill positions, but all seemed to fit quite well.


Apologies for not being clearer - the linebacker pick is purely for depth. We have 5 LBers on our 53, with one being the 300 year old Mike Peterson. We need an OLB or ILB for depth, not to replace Dent.

Bernard would be a great pick that low down - I just don't know if it fits the tendencies of our FO.
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote:
Love the Lattimore and Jenkins picks.

After that not so much. Don't think CB will be a need and pretty sure center won't be.

Gholston at 51.

BPA at 82


I would much rather feel comfrotable flipping Lemonier to 51, I don't think Gholston will fit the RDE (if thats where you wanted him), I think he is more that 5T and LDE.
After this week, Pocic will be replaced, with someone else (hard when the picks after him are CB, LB, RB)



I dont mind the corner pick. We are unsure what Hall will be this year. Along with that, Kirkpatrick should be set as the other corner. The rest of our guys are either older and on 1 year deals, or a guy like Prater. I think getting another solid young corner would be great.

As for C, not a huge fan of the pick. Would rather see a DE, but understand the pick. Overall good draft
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I don't know much about the prospects yet, but I hope we get a S/CB in the first round. We just drafted Rieff in the first this year and he's looked good in the preseason. We do draft BPA though so we could definitly pick a OT. The second and third round look great though.
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25. Kansas City Chiefs // Logan Thomas, QB Virginia Tech

56. Kansas City Chiefs // Robert Lester, S Alabama

88. Kansas City Chiefs // Christine Michael, RB Texas A&M


We do need to address the QB position because Matt Cassel isn't getting any better and will always be just an average QB. Never a guy that can go out and win a game by himself. While I was unimpressed with Thomas in their first game this year I recognize the potential he brings and his talents would be a welcomed addition to the Red and Gold.

We need both CB's and S's. Eric Berry is going to be a stud and Kendrick Lewis is a good FS, but has had trouble staying healthy so it wouldnt be a bad idea to grab another S, especially since we play a lot of 3 safety sets. I honestly don't know much about Lester, but I like the position.

I'm not sure how I feel about this pick. If we are able to resign Hillis (if he plays his way to another contract) then we won't need another RB. Even if we don't resign Hillis we would still have Charles and last years draft pick Cyrus Gray. Margus Hunt might catch our eye or Arthur Brown. Our LB depth is awful.
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Just my opinion, but as a Seahawk fan, I think in this scenerio the wiser choice would be to go best O-Lineman available in the first. Lots of talent there are we have question marks at OG and RT. Warmack or Cooper wouldn't upset me and neither would the best OT available. We also need another WR, so Justin Hunter would be a good option as well. In the 2nd, Sylvester Williams would be a good choice. We don't know how Jason Jones will perform this year and if he does horribly (or if he does well) and signs somewhere else next year, we will need another DT. In the 3rd, I would lean more towards Chase Thomas. Our secondary is set and the only positions we really may need to address on the defense this next year would be DT and OLB.

1st Priority - To help Wilson succeed, either by protecting him or adding a reliable receiving weapon.
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I'm liking the Bills picks overall. Just one question about the draft in general. Am I just missing something or do you not have Matt Barkley going anywhere in the first three rounds?

Sure there's still most of the season ahead, but even Jimmy Clausen didn't fall that far.
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IAS,
Good effort!

For the Chiefs -

Round 1 : I would love finally drafting a legitimate franchise quarterback. Logan Thomas has some things to work on, but the foundation is there.

Round 2 : I really like the Robert Lester pick. We have Kendrick Lewis and I know there are KC fans that are really high on Lewis but I am of the opinion he is an adequate starter (when healthy) on our team but is one of those players that if you have a chance to upgrade you seriously consider it. Lewis is limited physically, but has solid instincts in coverage with the negative being he is often a liability in run defense. Robert Lester is a very solid all-around safety who can play close to the line of scrimmage and also provide good deep coverage.

Round 3 : This is the one pick I would change and it's not because I hate Michael. His injury history is a concern, but I do think we need to look at adding a long term option opposite Brandon Flowers at cornerback. I don't think Stanford Routt is the answer and only time will tell if Jalil Brown can develop. And really the only thing I need to say is that Jacques Reeves has been getting way too much playing time due to injuries this preseason. IMO Reeves shouldn't even be on an NFL roster. I would go with the player picked right after our selection - Kyle Fuller. I love his physicality in run defense and in some respects he reminds me of former Hokie Brandon Flowers, although I would say Fuller has more athleticism and raw upside.

#1 Logan Thomas
#2 Robert Lester
#3 Kyle Fuller

I would be very happy!
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