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Arrowhead86


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:43 pm    Post subject: 2012 Prediction Thread Reply with quote

Put it on record Chiefs fans! All the questions are answered. The 53 is set. The real bullets fly this week. Whatcha got??


vs Atlanta - Loss - Just too much injury to overcome right now before even mentioning Hali. DJ, Flowers, Toribio, trying to play less than 100% and Lewis is out.

@ Buffalo - Win - Getting closer to full strength with Hali back

@ New Orleans - Loss - QB edge to too big

vs San Diego - Win - Crowd drives a frenzied D to their best game of the year

vs Baltimore - Win - Riding 'Big MO' to another win

@ Tampa Bay - Win - An improved Bucs team hasn't improved enough yet

vs Oakland - Win - Coming off the bye week but no let down for rivalry game

@ San Diego - Loss - Recent trend continues and they lose on the coast

@ Pittsburg - Win - Haley inspires the Chiefs.. big upset here

vs Cincinnati - Loss - Trap game bites them

vs Denver - Win - Crowd in full throttle all game long - running game dominates

vs Carolina - Loss - Mobile QB problems show up again

@ Cleveland - Win - Rookie QB can't handle Crennel

@ Oakland - Loss - Raiders getting things together at end of season

vs Indy - Win - Rookie QB in Arrowhead - even this highly touted can't hang!

@ Denver - Win - Game played for AFCW crown, Chiefs play big behind Hillis

Final Record: 10-6

Derrick Thomas Award (Team MVP) - Hillis
Mack Lee Hill Award (Rookie of the Year) - Hartmann (largely on special teams after Lewis returns)
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nicfre2011


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this in my NFL mock season thread in here that dropped like a rock. LOL
I am not changing any of the original picks, but after this preseason and especially considering the injuries right out of the gate, I am more concerned about the Atlanta game than I was before. I will explain the Denver losses - I can't explain, I just think Peyton Manning is going to be a pain in our rear end. Our revenge in my scenario is that we end up winning the division based on final records and not our head-to-head matchup.

Atlanta Falcons (L) @ Kansas City Chiefs (W)
Kansas City Chiefs (W) @ Buffalo Bills (L)
Kansas City Chiefs (L) @ New Orleans Saints (W)
San Diego Chargers (L) @ Kansas City Chiefs (W)
Baltimore Ravens (W) @ Kansas City Chiefs (L)
Kansas City Chiefs (W) @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers (L)
Oakland Raiders (L) @ Kansas City Chiefs (W)
Kansas City Chiefs (W) @ San Diego Chargers (L)
Kansas City Chiefs (W) @ Pittsburgh Steelers (L)
Cincinnati Bengals (W) @ Kansas City Chiefs (L)
Denver Broncos (W) @ Kansas City Chiefs (L)
Carolina Panthers (L) @ Kansas City Chiefs (W)
Kansas City Chiefs (W) @ Cleveland Browns (L)
Kansas City Chiefs (L) @ Oakland Raiders (W)
Indianapolis Colts (L) @ Kansas City Chiefs (W)
Kansas City Chiefs (L) @ Denver Broncos (W)

10-6
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atlanta Falcons: LOSS
@ Buffalo Bills: WIN
@ New Orleans Saints: LOSS
San Diego Chargers: WIN

Baltimore Ravens: LOSS
@ Tampa Bay Buccaneers: WIN
Oakland Raiders: WIN
@ San Diego Chargers: LOSS

@ Pittsburgh Steelers: LOSS
Cincinnati Bengals: WIN
Denver Broncos: WIN
Carolina Panthers: WIN

@ Cleveland Browns: WIN
@ Oakland Raiders: LOSS
Indianapolis Colts: WIN
@ Denver Broncos: LOSS

Final Record: 9-7

Team MVP: LB Derrick Johnson
Rookie of the Year: DT Dontari Poe
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not too much disparity in predictions thus far. Come on the rest of you - get your records on.. umm.. record!! Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atlanta Falcons: WIN Toss up, but I think for once we start fast
@ Buffalo Bills: WIN We can never seem to beat these guys, but the taste from last year gets us over the hump finally
@ New Orleans Saints: LOSS We should by all rights win this game given all the turmoil around the Saints, but 3 in a row seems lofty, and Drew Bress is still a beast
San Diego Chargers: WIN I just don't think the Chargers are anywhere near as good as they were 2-3 years ago, especially if Mathews can't stay healthy

Baltimore Ravens: WIN I'm predicitng a down year for the Ravens of sorts ( 8-8 ) and we capitalize at home
@ Tampa Bay Buccaneers: LOSS We get cocky and get surprised on the road by a young and talented team
Oakland Raiders: LOSS It's in KC, so of course we lose this ONE
@ San Diego Chargers: WIN I don't think this team will lose 3 in a row, and despite our struggles against SD in the past, I just think this is a rebuilding year for them

@ Pittsburgh Steelers: WIN We pull out all the stops in the Haley bowl, and beat an aging It team that is still retooling for thei 2013 SB run
Cincinnati Bengals: LOSS I think Cinci wins the North this year as my previous picks kind of lead you to, and this loss is one of those things that helps that
Denver Broncos: WIN Peyton will pay
Carolina Panthers: WIN I think Newton has a sophomore slump, but if he proves me wrong again, I'll quit "hatin" Laughing

@ Cleveland Browns: WIN Sorry, still rebuilding
@ Oakland Raiders: WIN In Oakland, yes, the trend continues, and Terrel Pryor struggles in his 3rd start <spolier alert>
Indianapolis Colts: WIN Could be a big trap game, but should be no problem
@ Denver Broncos: WIN This game will be for a potential #2 seed in the AFC and 1st round bye for us, and we'll be all in for that, and Denver will be out of the wildcard race, and possibly playing Osweiler.

Final Record: 12-4 I realize this is EXTREMELY optimistic, but I think it's actually fairly feasible. This is my high side with reasoning, and I could easily see as low as 7-9 again with some injuries and general stryfe with the team, but I honestly see the highside more likely. Finishing with 6 straight wins is probably the biggest issue, but if you look at those games, and think about where some of those teams could be at that point of the year (Raiders benching a struggling Palmer, Broncos out of it and giving Osweiler some experience, etc.), I think it's not too outside the realm of possibility.

Team MVP: RB Jamaal Charles I just have a feeling JC is going to tear it up even better then 2010. There are only maybe 3 good run defenses we face all year.
Rookie of the Year: WR/Returner Devon Wylie It has to be somebody right? Wylie probably will see more time on the field then any of the others except Poe, and he'll be in a position that won't afford him as many plays. Wylie could have 2-3 TD's as a returner, which would probably clinch it for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you seen the numbers I posted for JC against the top rush defenses he faced in '10? The guy is crazy, nobody can stop him.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to include this in my prediction post :

Derrick Thomas Award (Team MVP) - Jamaal Charles
Mack Lee Hill Award (Rookie of the Year) - Jeff Allen
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Im Back Reply with quote

we go 10-6 win our division,



MVP: Justin Houston
ROTY:POe
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Piquel


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is mine from the thread when schedule came out. I'll stick with my picks. The Falcons game has me worried, but my brother in law and nephew (Falcons fans) are going to the game. The last time they visited Arrowhead was This game and they vowed to never return to Arrowhead again. I hope they refuse to talk to me for a month again Very Happy


1 Sep 09 1:00 PM ET Falcons
2 Sep 16 1:00 PM ET at Bills
3 Sep 23 1:00 PM ET at Saints
4 Sep 30 1:00 PM ET Chargers
5 Oct 07 1:00 PM ET Ravens
6 Oct 14 1:00 PM ET at Buccaneers
7 Bye
8 Oct 28 4:05 PM ET Raiders
9 Nov 01 8:20 PM ET at Chargers
10 Nov 12 8:30 PM ET at Steelers
11 Nov 18 1:00 PM ET Bengals
12 Nov 25 1:00 PM ET Broncos
13 Dec 02 1:00 PM ET Panthers
14 Dec 09 1:00 PM ET at Browns
15 Dec 16 4:15 PM ET at Raiders
16 Dec 23 1:00 PM ET Colts
17 Dec 30 4:15 PM ET at Broncos

10-6 AFC West Champs (Denver 9-6, SD 9-6, Oak 7-9)

Derrick Thomas Award (Team MVP) - Matt Cassel
Mack Lee Hill Award (Rookie of the Year) - Jeff Allen
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not gonna predict, cuz I can't find more than 3 losses.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piquel wrote:

10-6 AFC West Champs (Denver 9-6, SD 9-6, Oak 7-9)


Hmm, obviously SD and DEN forgot to play each other ... Wink
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DT58_lives_on


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really torn on what this season will hold. After week 1 I thought 10-6 would be the worst. After the last three games, I'm back to my original thought that 9-7 or 8-8 are more likely. I just say this because our team has been very un-even thus far. Hoping that now that games matter we play a lot more like they do.

I'm going to say this, if we don't go 10-6 or better, we have no choice but to go hard after a QB. And Rage for the record, I think we need to no matter what, but I could see the argument made if our record exceeds 10-6.

I'll throw out one more predicition, I see our first pick being either a QB,CB or LT. And that is without really understanding who will be available outside of QB. I just see a huge need for upgrade at CB, and if we lost Albert unless Stephenson steps up and beasts...we'll need another pick.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
I'm not gonna predict, cuz I can't find more than 3 losses.


Better look at the QB position again. There's 5 losses right there.

This is a QB league and the Chiefs are trotting Matt Cassell out there. Not buying for a second he's anything more than a franchise paid backup.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Better look at the QB position again. There's 5 losses right there.

This is a QB league and the Chiefs are trotting Matt Cassell out there. Not buying for a second he's anything more than a franchise paid backup.


It really amuses me that Palooka called out Rage of all people on this. As we all know Rage is well aware of what we have in Cassel.

To say Cassel will cost us 5 games seems harsh. I don't think Cassel will be at fault for that many games lost. I'm not saying (obviously from my predictions) that we won't lose 5 games.

In 2010 Cassel with a less talented team around him put up 27TDs and 7INTs.

Since I usually defend you Palooka as not being a troll I'll ask you this. When is the last time a Raider QB put up near those numbers? I'll give you a hint, his name rhymes with Cannon, and it was a decade ago. Collins was ok in 05 but had 7 less TDs and 5 more INTs.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC_Guy wrote:
Piquel wrote:

10-6 AFC West Champs (Denver 9-6, SD 9-6, Oak 7-9)


Hmm, obviously SD and DEN forgot to play each other ... Wink



Razz Denver 9-7, SD 9-7, Oak 7-9
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