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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Preseason Week 4: Lions vs Bills Game Day Thread Reply with quote

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Thursday, August 30th at 7:00 PM EDT - Ford Field, Detroit vs. Buffalo


Buffalo Bills (0-3)


Mario Williams had two sacks last game against the Steelers

Preseason Team Rankings

Offense
Total Yards: 24th (274.0 yards/game)
Rushing Yards: 24th (88.0 yards/game)
Passing Yards: 19th (186.0 yards/game)
Points: 31st (9.0 points/game)

Defense
Total Yards Against: 28th (350.7 yards/game)
Rushing Yards Against: 22nd (118.7 yards/game)
Passing Yards Against: 25th-tied (232.0 yards/game)
Points Against: 30th (27.0 points/game)

Differentials
Takeaway/Giveaway: 28th-tied (-3 turnovers)
Net Points: 32nd (-54 points)

Preseason Team Leaders

Passing: Vince Young - 25/52 (48.1%) for 276 yards (5.3 yards/attempt) and 0 touchdowns to 2 interceptions (48.2 rating)
Rushing: Tashard Choice - 23 carries for 81 yards (3.5 yards/attempt) and 1 touchdown; 4 receptions for 36 yards (9.0 yards/reception)
Receiving: T.J. Graham - 8 receptions for 134 yards (16.8 yards/reception)

Solo Tackles: Nick Barnett - 9 solo tackles (12 total)
Sacks: Mario Williams - 2.0 sacks, 2 solo tackles (3 total)
Interceptions: Ron Brooks - 1 interception for 4 yards, 7 solo tackles (8 total)

Kicking: Rian Lindell - 9 total points, 2/3 field goals (66%), 3/3 extra points (100%)
Punting: Brian Moorman - 41.7 average on 13 punts, 41.2 net average, 8 punts inside the 20 (61%)
Kick Returns: Marcus Easley - 5 returns for 100 yards (20.0 average)
Punt Returns: Naaman Roosevelt - 4 returns for 52 yards (13.0 average)

Preseason Game Balls

Preseason Week 1: Ron Brooks
Preseason Week 2: Delano Howell
Preseason Week 3: Mario Williams

2011 AFC East Standings

1. (13-3) New England [5-1 DIV, 10-2 CONF]
2. (8-8) New York [3-3 DIV, 6-6 CONF]
3. (6-10) Miami [3-3 DIV, 5-7 CONF]
4. (6-10) Buffalo [1-5 DIV, 4-8 CONF]

Current Bills Depth Chart

Check out the Bills Forum Directory (always being updated) for a depth chart as well as recent Bills news and stories.

Bills Injury Report (updated 8/27, check back for updates)

Injured Reserve:
DT Torrell Troup (back)

Reserve PUP:
TE Mike Caussin (knee)

Status TBD:
TE Kevin Brock (shoulder)
RT Erik Pears (groin)
DE Mark Anderson (groin)

Other Stats
  • The Bills are 4-4-1 all-time against the Lions during the regular season
  • Kicker John Potter is 8/8 for getting touchbacks on kickoffs during the preseason, good for best in the league
  • During the preseason the Patriots are 26th in points scored, the Dolphins are 30th, the Bills are 31st, and the Jets are 32nd


Detroit Lions (1-2)


Brandon Pettigrew caught four balls for 31 yards and a touchdown last game against the Raiders

Preseason Team Rankings

Offense
Total Yards: 3rd (385.3 yards/game)
Rushing Yards: 4th (143.0 yards/game)
Passing Yards: 7th (242.3 yards/game)
Points: 12th-tied (21.3 points/game)

Defense
Total Yards Against: 32nd (428.3 yards/game)
Rushing Yards Against: 20th (142.0 yards/game)
Passing Yards Against: 31st (286.3 yards/game)
Points Against: 21st (20.7 points/game)

Differentials
Takeaway/Giveaway: 7th-tied (+1 turnover)
Net Points: 17th-tied (+2 points)

Preseason Team Leaders

Passing: Matthew Stafford - 24/34 (70.6%) for 303 yards (8.9 yards/attempt) and 2 touchdowns to 1 interception (105.4 rating); 2 carries for -5 yards
Rushing: Joique Bell - 26 carries for 135 yards (5.1 yards/attempt); 3 receptions for 44 yards (14.6 yards/reception)
Receiving: Calvin Johnson - 8 receptions for 154 yards (19.3 yards/reception) and 1 touchdown

Solo Tackles: Doug Hogue - 13 solo tackles (16 total)
Sacks: Everette Brown - 1.5 sacks, 1 solo tackle (3 total)
Interceptions: Bill Bentley, Carmen Messina, Willie Young, Stephen Tulloch - 1 interception each

Kicking: Jason Hanson - 13 total points, 3/4 field goals (75%), 4/4 extra points (100%)
Punting: Ryan Donahue - 39.7 average on 10 punts, 38.9 net average, 2 punts inside the 20 (20%)
Kick Returns: Justin Miller - 4 returns for 92 yards (23.0 average)
Punt Returns: Pat Edwards - 3 returns for 8 yards (2.6 average)


Summary

Upcoming dates:
Aug 30: Preseason week 4 at Detroit
Aug 31: Roster reduction to 53 players
Sep 9: Week 1 opener against the New York Jets at MetLife Stadium
Sep 16: Home opener against the Kansas City Chiefs at Ralph Wilson Stadium

It is easily apparent that Buffalo's biggest weakness is at quarterback. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young and Tyler Thigpen all have completion percentages of 48%. The Bills traded for Tarvaris Jackson and released Vince Young. It should be an interesting game to watch with a new quarterback on the roster and with the final cut day right around the corner. Do you guys have any predictions on which 22 players will be cut? Which players are on the bubble and will need a solid game to solidify a roster spot?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard on WGR that Jackson might play in this game, I assume it will be a very limited offense but I am excited to see him in a Bills jersey.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TommyC376 wrote:
I heard on WGR that Jackson might play in this game, I assume it will be a very limited offense but I am excited to see him in a Bills jersey.


Lol why?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigbadbuff23835 wrote:
TommyC376 wrote:
I heard on WGR that Jackson might play in this game, I assume it will be a very limited offense but I am excited to see him in a Bills jersey.


Lol why?


I've always liked Jackson, I wanted him last year until he signed with Seattle. Plus why not its something to look forward to for the last preseason game.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jb_gobills wrote:
Do you guys have any predictions on which 22 players will be cut?


My Guess:
4 Tyler Thigpen
35 Zach Brown
20 Johnny White
88 Kamar Aiken
81 Marcus Easley
82 Ruvell Martin
18 Naaman Roosevelt
87 Kevin Brock
63 Mark Asper
64 James Carmon
68 Keith Williams
48 Robert Eddins
51 Chris White
46 Isaiah Green
30 Nick Saenz
73 Jarron Gilbert
72 Kellen Heard
71 Sam Young
59 Scott McKillop
98 Dwan Edwards
74 Colin Brown
24 Terrence McGee
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TommyC376 wrote:
jb_gobills wrote:
Do you guys have any predictions on which 22 players will be cut?


My Guess:
4 Tyler Thigpen
35 Zach Brown
20 Johnny White
88 Kamar Aiken
81 Marcus Easley
82 Ruvell Martin
18 Naaman Roosevelt
87 Kevin Brock
63 Mark Asper
64 James Carmon
68 Keith Williams
48 Robert Eddins
51 Chris White
46 Isaiah Green
30 Nick Saenz
73 Jarron Gilbert
72 Kellen Heard
71 Sam Young
59 Scott McKillop
98 Dwan Edwards
74 Colin Brown
24 Terrence McGee


I like Brown. He is very good oline depth...

Dwan Edwards I don't think will be cut... He doesn't deserve to be cut before Carrington.

McGee I see as a real possibility of being cut with Brooks and Rogers playing the way they are.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The long road to recovery for Terrence McGee coming off patellar tendon surgery saw a bump in the road after practice Monday and it kept him off the practice field Tuesday. It will also keep him out of the preseason finale Thursday night in Detroit.


McGee Suffers Steback
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The long road to recovery for Terrence McGee coming off patellar tendon surgery saw a bump in the road after practice Monday and it kept him off the practice field Tuesday. It will also keep him out of the preseason finale Thursday night in Detroit.


McGee Suffers Steback


That really sucks. I don't think McGee has a shot at making the roster.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why didn't Mario get the gameball last week? He had 2 sacks and recieved 50% of our votes.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marshawn lynch wrote:
Why didn't Mario get the gameball last week? He had 2 sacks and recieved 50% of our votes.


When I made the thread there was one vote cast for three different players. I can edit it since it's changed since then.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Game preview - Bills-Lions

Position battles of note:
  • Fourth defensive end spot: Robert Eddins, Jarron Gilbert, Kyle Moore
  • Sixth and seventh linebacker spots: Tank Carder, Scott McKillop, Kirk Morrison, Chris White
  • Possible fourth offensive tackle spot: Sam Young, Zerbie Sanders
  • Possible fourth safety spot: Delano Howell, Nick Saenz

Injury Report:

Out:
RT Erik Pears
DE Mark Anderson
CB Terrence McGee

Questionable:
OT Zerbie Sanders
OT James Carmon
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jb_gobills wrote:

Position battles of note:
  • Fourth defensive end spot: Robert Eddins, Jarron Gilbert, Kyle Moore - Has a great pass rush, just needs to become a better all around player. But I think he wins this battle.
  • Sixth and seventh linebacker spots: Tank Carder - Special Teams, Scott McKillop, Kirk Morrison - Veteran Leader., Chris White
  • Possible fourth offensive tackle spot: Sam Young - I'm going with Young here, Sanders has to show something this game for the coaches to know why they spent a 5th round pick on him., Zerbie Sanders
  • Possible fourth safety spot: Delano Howell - He looked really good against the Vikings and should use this game to prove to the coaches they need to keep a 4th safety., Nick Saenz

Injury Report:


Questionable:
OT Zerbie Sanders - Sanders better play if he wants to make the roster
OT James Carmon

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TommyC376 wrote:
jb_gobills wrote:

Position battles of note:
  • Fourth defensive end spot: Robert Eddins, Jarron Gilbert, Kyle Moore - Has a great pass rush, just needs to become a better all around player. But I think he wins this battle.
  • Sixth and seventh linebacker spots: Tank Carder - Special Teams, Scott McKillop, Kirk Morrison - Veteran Leader., Chris White
  • Possible fourth offensive tackle spot: Sam Young - I'm going with Young here, Sanders has to show something this game for the coaches to know why they spent a 5th round pick on him., Zerbie Sanders
  • Possible fourth safety spot: Delano Howell - He looked really good against the Vikings and should use this game to prove to the coaches they need to keep a 4th safety., Nick Saenz

Injury Report:


Questionable:
OT Zerbie Sanders - Sanders better play if he wants to make the roster
OT James Carmon


Agree with the bolded 110%. At this point, I'm thinking those predictions & reasons should be gimme's, especially regarding Sam Young, who has been quite impressive in preseason so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sanders is PS bound IMO, I think Dwan Edwards makes team over Carrington/Heard and a decent showing from Rogers/Brooks ends McGee Buffalo career
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooks doesn't make trip

Brooks didn't make the trip to Detroit due to an injury. McGee is also out and Williams/Gilmore will only play ten snaps. This means a lot of playing time for McKelvin, Rodgers and Isiash Green.
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