Broncos Forum Intro/Randomer Thoughts Thread

[jsthomp2007]

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[JerseysFinest27]

[AntiSuperstar]

Iguodala is the closest the modern NBA has to a Scottie Pippen. His mere presence on the court makes a team's fastbreak better(like LeBron and Wade, he's great both at leading and finish on the break), he's an excellent defender(with his team defense being even better than his man to man), an excellent passer, and is a clutch shooter as well. He's not a go-to scorer but neither is Kevin Garnett and I'm pretty sure he's made 14 million many times in the past.

Philly fans have to watch a poorly coached, poorly assembled team and they still have yet to get over the fact that Allen Iverson is a loser and that Jrue Holiday isn't worth hyping, so who cares what they think? Andre Iguodala was their best player and they can rationalize losing him as much as they like. He's not a selfish loser like Andrew Bynum is. It's not like the Nuggets gave up a top scorer to get Iggy so I don't see the problem with them improving their team.

Personally, as neither a Nuggets or Sixers fan, I can't wait to see Iguodala and Faried on the court together.
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[AntiSuperstar]

Considering Iguodala is essentially replacing Aaron Afflalo's spot on the team I don't see any reason to believe the Nuggets are expecting Iguodala to be a focal point of the offense. In that regard the only possible issue is what you originall brought up, his contract(which only goes for two years so that's not much of a point either).

Also I had to laugh at the suggestion that Bynum is more of a star than Iguodala. No he isn't. Andrew Bynum is an ok low post scorer who doesn't pass out of double teams well and a good pick and roll finisher. In reality Andrew Bynum is a complimentary player who is too selfish to be anything but a 20 point scorer on a crappy team. He's almost like the younger, bigger version of Zach Randolph. Not to mention Bynum is injury-prone.

Nope, I would much rather have Iguodala than Bynum as the best player on my team. And saying Iguodala has no-half court game is a bit of an exaggeration. He's not a go-to scorer, which means he can't consistantly create shots for himself when being the focus of an opposing team's defense. He's an inconsistant, not bad jump-shooter. He's still an above average slasher(just not a great or reliable one because that's never been his game) and he is very good at creating shots for others. Yes, he's not going to change the Nuggets offense but as a guy who will mostly be a complimentary piece and can sometimes run some plays himself, he's a nice addition to a Playoff team who didn't even have a top scorer to begin with.

Again, he's replacing Afflalo. Even in terms of half-court offense Iggy is a significant upgrade. If you want to talk about bad contracts for the Nuggets, there's always Javale McGee.
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[jsthomp2007]

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I was making a point that everyone is overpayed in the NBA by bringing up McGee. DeAndre Jordan makes like 11 million...if you are a center worth anything at all you are getting paid.

The fact that you are saying Iggy is garbage for his contract is what I have beef with. You have brought up how the Nets contracts are crap like three times. That's the NBA bro.

Clearly he is not coming in to be a Nuggets star, look at the roster and how the team is set up. I feel like that goes without saying....so yeah your rant is way off. But yeah I am clearly a homer? For recognizing the fact that valuable players are payed in the NBA and that Iggy is going to make the Nuggets better. Seeing the stats the don't display his strengths and hearing about your talk shows are things that I am not interested in. But you are the alpha dog dude I am so impressed by your knowledge of Iggy being "garbage." I called him an all-star, which is a fact. I never said he was a star.

Arron Afflalo averaged 15/2/3 and if you don't think Andre Iguodala is a major upgrade over him then you have not seen Afflalo enough. I totally disagree with you on that jsthomp. Afflalo is a spot up shooter that does not hit shots consistently and is not athletic enough to finish. Yes he is a good defender, but no not on Iggy's level at all.

The Nuggies do need a go-to guy, but at this point their plan is clearly to wait for the young guys to step into that. Ty Lawson is a good player that could be great. I see him stepping up even more this year. And Danilo obviously has a lot of talent, but he is pretty much a joke as of now. Chandler I have not seen much of, but we will see. Faried will never be a star, he isn't skilled enough, but he will be a great player to have on the team. Yo I am a homer though. Just so you know.
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[Zukhyubern]

I wish the Nugs would somehow trade for Josh Smith now... they'd be lethal

[jsthomp2007]

Champ. I hope Iguodala is a major upgrade over Afflalo. And perhaps Iguodala will flourish in the run and gun game that the Nuggets like to play. Plus, we know that Iguodala's defense is his game, which is great. He will hopefully slow down the likes of Durant and Kobe. Iguodala could supply some balance to the Nuggets. I think if I read correctly, the Nuggets averaged the most points last year, yet had one of the worst defenses. But, a bad defense could be the result of playing the Thunder, the Lakers, the Mavericks, the Spurs, and et al in the West.

The Nuggets overall have some nice pieces. They have some really good 2,3,4th options...I think the jury could still be out on Faried. That dude can be really good. I think Galo will always be what he is, a nice player who has a nice perimeter shot and a he is a role player. Ty Lawson is also a nice point guard and I like Dre off the bench. Wilson Chandler also has a nice game.

I am just trying to figure out who the go-to is. The guy the Nuggets can absolutely count on every night, and maybe Iguodala can be that guy? He is very balanced. The Nuggets don't need a 20 point per night guy. Duncan doesn't average 20 per each night anymore.

Really, what do the Spurs have that the Nuggets don't? Duncan isn't what he was, Parker is great PG, and Manu is a feisty player, but isn't that great. The Spurs have a lot of aging role players. The Nuggets have a lot of young role players.

I think the Nuggets are really modeling themselves out of the Spurs mold, which is great. They had the best record in the West last year (I think). And it is somewhat obvious that the Nuggets would follow the Spurs way, Karl and Popovich are kind of cut from the same cloth...they value fundamental basketball and unselfish basketball.

But, the Nuggets don't have what the Spurs have in Duncan. Duncan, despite diminishing abilities is still a go-to and a leader of that team. He has intangibles that keep that team going. That is what the Nuggets need. The Nuggets are young though...maybe someone will emerge.
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[BroncoBruin]

Afflalo was actually a horrible defender last year. He's not even close to Iguodala's level.
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