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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plan9misfit wrote:
MaddHatter wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
MaddHatter wrote:
Shows his complete lack of knowledge...

Best 4th QTR Rating
2nd best 2min Rating
Better Adjusted Comeback Efficiency than Brady
Better Comeback completion Percentage than Staubach

But a couple drops by Crayton and a botched FG after a clutch drove and he's the reason we fail... forget the 5 blown leads Romo the final minute this year or his numerous late minute go ahead drives like SF


I never liked the "comeback" percentage argument. Here's why: a player is going to have a lower "comeback" percentage if his team isn't in a position where it has to come back as often. I would say that teams with poorer "comeback" percentages would probably have higher overall win percentages.


The comeback percentage is based on opportunity and success - not sure where having fewer opportunities factors into that equation


I think you misunderstood my point, MH. It's a useless stat because if a team was better, there wouldn't be the need to measure that stat because the team wouldn't be in a position where it would have to come back at the end.


Its not when I'm disproving the notion thar he plays poorly late in close games.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaddHatter wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
MaddHatter wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
MaddHatter wrote:
Shows his complete lack of knowledge...

Best 4th QTR Rating
2nd best 2min Rating
Better Adjusted Comeback Efficiency than Brady
Better Comeback completion Percentage than Staubach

But a couple drops by Crayton and a botched FG after a clutch drove and he's the reason we fail... forget the 5 blown leads Romo the final minute this year or his numerous late minute go ahead drives like SF


I never liked the "comeback" percentage argument. Here's why: a player is going to have a lower "comeback" percentage if his team isn't in a position where it has to come back as often. I would say that teams with poorer "comeback" percentages would probably have higher overall win percentages.


The comeback percentage is based on opportunity and success - not sure where having fewer opportunities factors into that equation


I think you misunderstood my point, MH. It's a useless stat because if a team was better, there wouldn't be the need to measure that stat because the team wouldn't be in a position where it would have to come back at the end.


Its not when I'm disproving the notion thar he plays poorly late in close games.


I think you are misunderstanding what Canty is saying. Canty actually said,

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Romo’s a tremendous quarterback, statistically he’s a top five quarterback, that’s undeniable


Then he goes on to say that the reason that the Cowboys haven't had the same success as the Giants (ie winning the SB) is that Romo hasn't played as well as Manning in clutch situations. I think it's pretty clear that when Canty is talking about "clutch situations", he's talking about the playoffs when the season (not a single game) is on the line. In other words, Romo is a top 5 QB but he's still the reason the Cowboys haven't had the postseason success as the giants. Is he oversimplifying things? Yeah. But, there's some truth to it as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In other words, Romo is a top 5 QB but he's still the reason the Cowboys haven't had the postseason success as the giants. Is he oversimplifying things? Yeah. But, there's some truth to it as well.


Romo is the sole reason? Really?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desperado82 wrote:
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In other words, Romo is a top 5 QB but he's still the reason the Cowboys haven't had the postseason success as the giants. Is he oversimplifying things? Yeah. But, there's some truth to it as well.


Romo is the sole reason? Really?


Like I said, Canty oversimplied things. But, there is some truth to what he is saying. Romo played an average game against the seahawks and then had a monumental error in 06. He had a bad forth quarter against the Giants in 07. And, he had a terrible game against the Vikings in 09. Were there other factors? Sure. But, that doesn't change the fact that Romo wasn't at his best in those clutch, season ending games.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Canty would have said that the biggest difference between the Giants and the Boys is that one organization has a meddling owner and the other one doesn't, I think most of us would have rallied behind him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Slamman wrote:
Desperado82 wrote:
The_Slamman wrote:
In other words, Romo is a top 5 QB but he's still the reason the Cowboys haven't had the postseason success as the giants. Is he oversimplifying things? Yeah. But, there's some truth to it as well.


Romo is the sole reason? Really?


Like I said, Canty oversimplied things. But, there is some truth to what he is saying. Romo played an average game against the seahawks and then had a monumental error in 06. He had a bad forth quarter against the Giants in 07. And, he had a terrible game against the Vikings in 09. Were there other factors? Sure. But, that doesn't change the fact that Romo wasn't at his best in those clutch, season ending games.


You and Plan are the reasons why we never get along as fans of the same team. A rival sends a former teammate away with a compliment, and then a boot in the [inappropriate/removed] on his way out the door.

He didn't mean anything by it though..... Laughing
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