CW21's 2012 NBA Draft Thread (Final Draft, Pg. 14)

[CWood21]

Well I haven't done one of these threads in a couple of years, but why not start now. I'll be posting rankings, scouting reports, and even passing on rumors that I've heard. Feel free to tell me I'm an idiot (within the rules) and correct me where I'm wrong or ask questions. Whatever goes.

I'm going by old video of the players playing on whatever channel they were playing on, old videos of them playing (and yes some of them are highlight reals) and also comparing them to other reports.
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[CWood21]

Big Board

Updated: 6/28/12
1.) Anthony Davis [PF/C; Kentucky]
2.) Bradley Beal [SG; Florida]
3.) Michael Kidd-Gilchrist [SF; Kentucky]
4.) Thomas Robinson [PF; Kansas]
5.) Andre Drummond [C; UConn]
6.) Harrison Barnes [SF; North Carolina]
7.) Jeremy Lamb [SG; UConn]
8.) Dion Waiters [SG; Syracuse]
9.) Damian Lillard [PG; Weber State]
10.) Perry Jones III [PF; Baylor]
11.) Austin Rivers [SG; Duke]
12.) Terrence Ross [SG/SF; Washington]
13.) Jared Sullinger [PF/C; Ohio State]
14.) Tyler Zeller [C; North Carolina]
15.) Meyers Leonard [C; Illinois]
16.) Moe Harkless [SF; St. John’s]
17.) Arnett Moultrie [PF/C; Mississippi State]
18.) Kendall Marshall [PG; North Carolina]
19.) Terrence Jones [PF/SF; Kentucky]
20.) John Henson [PF; North Carolina]
21.) Royce White [PF; Iowa State]
22.) Marquis Teague [PG; Kentucky]
23.) Tony Wroten [PG/SG; Washington]
24.) Fab Melo [C; Syracuse]
25.) Evan Fournier [SG/SF; France]
26.) Andrew Nicholson [PF/C; St. Bonaventure]
27.) Jeff Taylor [SF; Vanderbilt]
28.) Doron Lamb [SG; Kentucky]
29.) Quincy Miller [SF; Baylor]
30.) John Jenkins [SG; Vanderbilt]
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Guards

Point Guards
1.) Damian Lillard [PG; Weber State]
2.) Kendall Marshall [PG; North Carolina]
3.) Marquis Teague [PG; Kentucky]
4.) Tony Wroten [PG/SG; Washington]
5.) Scott Machado [PG; Iona]
6.) Tyshawn Taylor [PG; Kansas]
7.) Tomas Satoransky [PG/SG; Czech Republic]
8.) Tu Holloway [PG; Xavier]
9.) Casper Ware [PG; Long Beach State]
10.) J'Covan Brown [PG/SG; Texas]
11.) Josep Franch [PG; Spain]
12.) Nemanja Nedovic [PG; Serbia]
13.) Maalik Wayns [PG; Villanova]
14.) Andrew Albicy [PG; France]
15.) Jordan Taylor [PG; Wisconsin]
16.) Dee Bost [PG; Mississippi State]
17.) Terrell Stoglin [PG; Maryland]
18.) Zack Rosen [PG; Penn]
19.) Reggie Hamilton [PG; Oakland]
20.) Kostas Sloukas [PG; Greece]


Shooting Guards
1.) Bradley Beal [SG; Florida]
2.) Jeremy Lamb [SG; UConn]
3.) Dion Waiters [SG; Syracuse]
4.) Austin Rivers [SG; Duke]
5.) Terrence Ross [SF/SG; Washington]
6.) Evan Fournier [SG/SF; France]
7.) Doron Lamb [SG; Kentucky]
8.) Tony Wroten [PG/SG; Washington]
9.) John Jenkins [SG; Vanderbilt]
10.) Orlando Johnson [SG; UC Santa Barbara]
11.) Will Barton [SG/SF; Memphis]
12.) Kevin Murphy [SG/SF; Tennessee Tech]
13.) Jared Cunningham [SG; Oregon State]
14.) William Buford [SG; Ohio State]
15.) Darius Johnson-Odom [SG; Marquette]
16.) Nihad Djedovic [SG/SF; Bosnia & Herzegovina]
17.) Kim English [SG; Missouri]
18.) Tomas Satoransky [PG/SG; Czech Republic]
19.) Marcus Denmon [SG: Missouri]
20.) Charlie Westbrook [SG; South Dakota]
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Forwards

Small Forwards
1.) Michael Kidd-Gilchrist [SF; Kentucky]
2.) Harrison Barnes [SF; North Carolina]
3.) Moe Harkless [SF; St. John's]
4.) Terrence Ross [SF/SG; Washington]
5.) Terrence Jones [PF/SF; Kentucky]
6.) Jeff Taylor [SF; Vanderbilt]
7.) Quincy Miller [SF; Baylor]
8.) Darius Miller [SF; Kentucky]
9.) Evan Fournier [SG/SF; France]
10.) Kostas Papanikolaou [SF; Greece]
11.) Tornike Shengelia [PF/SF; Georgia]
12.) Kris Joseph [SF; Syracuse]
13.) Will Barton [SG/SF; Memphis]
14.) Hollis Thompson [SF; Georgetown]
15.) Kevin Murphy [SG/SF; Tennessee Tech]
16.) Jae Crowder [SF/PF; Marquette]
17.) Tony Mitchell [SF; Alabama]
18.) Nihad Djedovic [SG/SF; Bosnia & Herzegovina]
19.) John Shurna [SF/PF; Northwestern]
20.) Wesley Witherspoon [SF; Memphis]


Power Forwards
1.) Anthony Davis [PF/C; Kentucky]
2.) Thomas Robinson [PF; Kansas]
3.) Perry Jones III [PF; Baylor]
4.) Jared Sullinger [PF; Ohio State]
5.) Arnett Moultrie [PF/C; Mississippi State]
6.) John Henson [PF; North Carolina]
7.) Royce White [PF; Iowa State]
8.) Terrence Jones [PF/SF; Kentucky]
9.) Andrew Nicholson [PF/C; St. Bonaventure]
10.) Kevin Jones [PF; West Virginia]
11.) Kyle O'Quinn [PF/C; Norfolk State]
12.) Draymond Green [PF; Michigan State]
13.) Drew Gordon [PF; New Mexico]
14.) JaMychal Green [PF; Alabama]
15.) Tornike Shengelia [PF/SF; Georgia]
16.) Mike Scott [PF; Virginia]
17.) Henry Sims [PF/C; Georgetown]
18.) Yancy Gates [PF/C; Cincinnati]
19.) Eric Griffin [PF; Campbell]
20.) Ricardo Ratcliffe [PF/C; Missouri]
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Centers

Centers
1.) Anthony Davis [PF/C; Kentucky]
2.) Andre Drummond [C; UConn]
3.) Tyler Zeller [C; North Carolina]
4.) Meyers Leonard [C; Illinois]
5.) Jared Sullinger [PF/C; Ohio State]
6.) Arnett Moultrie [PF/C; Mississippi State]
7.) Fab Melo [C; Syracuse]
8.) Festus Ezeli [C; Vanderbilt]
9.) Andrew Nicholson [PF/C; St. Bonaventure]
10.) Henry Sims [PF/C; Georgtown]
11.) Dusan Cantekin [C; Serbia]
12.) Ognjen Kuzmic [C; Bosnia & Herzegovina]
13.) Leon Radosevic [C/PF; Croatia]
14.) Robert Sacre [C; Gonzaga]
15.) Bernard James [C; Florida State]
16.) Justin Hamilton [C; LSU]
17.) Miles Plumlee [C; Duke]
18.) Yancy Gates [PF/C; Cincinnati]
19.) Ricardo Ratcliffe [PF/C; Missouri]
20.) Garrett Stutz [C; Wichita State]
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Mock Draft

Version - Date: 4.0 - 6/28/12 - 2:40 PM EST
[b]1.) New Orleans Hornets - Anthony Davis [PF/C; Kentucky]
2.) Charlotte Bobcats - Thomas Robinson [PF; Kansas]
3.) Washington Wizards - Bradley Beal [SG; Florida]
4.) Cleveland Cavaliers - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist [SF; Kentucky]
5.) Sacramento Kings - Harrison Barnes [SF; North Carolina]
6.) Portland Trailblazers (from Brooklyn) - Damian Lillard [PG; Weber State]
7.) Golden State Warriors - Dion Waiters [SG; Syracuse]
8.) Toronto Raptors - Austin Rivers [SG; Duke]
9.) Detroit Pistons - Andre Drummond [C; UConn]
10.) New Orleans Hornets (from Minnesota) - Meyers Leonard [C; Illinois]
11.) Portland Trailblazers - Moe Harkless [SF; St. John's]
12.) Houston Rockets (from Milwaukee) - Tyler Zeller [C; North Carolina]
13.) Phoenix Suns - Jeremy Lamb [SG; UConn]
14.) Milwaukee Bucks (from Houston) - John Henson [PF; North Carolina]
15.) Philadelphia 76ers - Arnett Moultrie [PF/C; Mississippi State]
16.) Houston Rockets (from New York) - Terrence Ross [SG/SF; Washington]
17.) Dallas Mavericks - Tony Wroten [PG/SG; Washington]
18.) Houston Rockets (from Minnesota via Utah) - Terrence Jones [PF/SF; Kentucky]
19.) Orlando Magic - Royce White [SF/PF: Iowa State]
20.) Denver Nuggets - Kendall Marshall [PG; North Carolina]
21.) Boston Celtics - Andrew Nicholson [PF/C; St. Bonaventure]
22.) Boston Celtics (from L.A. Clippers) - Quincy Miller [SF; Baylor]
23.) Atlanta Hawks - Perry Jones [PF; Baylor]
24.) Cleveland Cavaliers (from L.A. Lakers) - Fab Melo [C; Syracuse]
25.) Memphis Grizzlies - Evan Fournier [SG/SF; France]
26.) Indiana Pacers - Jared Sullinger [PF; Ohio State]
27.) Miami Heat - Festus Ezeli [C; Vanderbilt]
28.) Oklahoma City Thunder - Kevin Jones [PF; West Virginia]
29.) Chicago Bulls - Tyshawn Taylor [PG; Kansas]
30.) Golden State Warriors (from San Antonio) - Furkan Aldemir [PF; Turkey]


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1.) New Orleans Hornets
2.) Charlotte Bobcats
3.) Washington Wizards
4.) Cleveland Cavaliers
5.) Sacramento Kings
6.) Portland Trailblazers (from Brooklyn)
7.) Golden State Warriors
8.) Toronto Raptors
9.) Detroit Pistons
10.) New Orleans Hornets (from Minnesota)
11.) Portland Trailblazers
12.) Milwaukee Bucks
13.) Phoenix Suns
14.) Houston Rockets
15.) Philadelphia 76ers
16.) Houston Rockets (from New York)
17.) Dallas Mavericks
18.) Minnesota Timberwolves (from Utah)
19.) Orlando Magic
20.) Denver Nuggets
21.) Boston Celtics
22.) Boston Celtics (from L.A. Clippers)
23.) Atlanta Hawks
24.) Cleveland Cavaliers (from L.A. Lakers)
25.) Memphis Grizzlies
26.) Indiana Pacers
27.) Miami Heat
28.) Oklahoma City Thunder
29.) Chicago Bulls
30.) Golden State Warriors (from San Antonio)
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[CWood21]

Draft Rumors (6/8 Edition)

~ Apparently Dion Waiters got a promise from some team inside the lottery. He shut down his workout and left the NBA Pre-Draft camp and has shut down any other scheduled workouts. Early reports came out saying that Toronto at 8 was the team that most likely gave him the promise, but Raptors president and general manager, Bryan Colangelo, came out and was adamant that the Raptors had not given any promises. Phoenix is another possibility, but I believe that Toronto was in fact the team that gave Waiters the promise.

~ Cavaliers apparently really like Harrison Barnes, but I believe ultimately they have Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Bradley Beal both higher on their big board. I think this might be a ploy to get Charlotte to lower the price on swapping picks, but look for Charlotte and Cleveland to explore working on a deal that would allow the Bobcats to move down, likely to target Thomas Robinson, while the Cavaliers would move up, presumably for either Beal or Kidd-Gilchrist. Harrison Barnes won't get past Sacramento at five though should Cleveland manage to trade up to two.

~ Don't be surprised if Arnett Moultrie ends up going in the lottery. His stock has slowly been rising, and he's being looked at as high as ninth to Detroit where many think he's a great fit next to Greg Monroe. He was viewed as a late first round pick going into the year.

~ Speaking of the lottery, the big winners in this were the New Orleans Hornets, Portland Trailblazers and Golden State Warriors. The Hornets were the obvious winners with the Hornets getting the #1 overall choice who they will presumably take Anthony Davis. Both the Trailblazers and Warriors are winners because they managed to keep the picks that were involved within the trades. The Blazers kept the Nets pick since it didn't fall inside the top three, while the Warriors kept their pick since it didn't fall outside the top seven. The Warriors were negotiating with the Jazz about tightening the restrictions on their pick before talks were broken off. As for the big losers, the Charlotte Bobcats and Brooklyn Nets were the big losers. The Bobcats were one of the worst teams in the NBA ever, and they deserved the #1 pick but the ping pong balls didn't fall their way. The Nets ended up losing a top six pick through the Gerald Wallace trade when the ping pong balls didn't bounce their way.

~ Don't be surprised if Rudy Gay and/or Andre Iguodala are dealt on draft day. The Grizzlies apparently want cap relief and a lottery pick in return for Rudy Gay, but not many teams could offer that. Both the Trailblazers and Kings could both be teams interested in acquiring Rudy Gay. Andre Igoudala figures to be dealt as well, but might not have the trade value that Rudy Gay has since he's a bit older. He's been linked to the Lakers, Jazz, and a couple of other teams so I fully expect to see Andre Iguodala in another uniform next year with the emergence of Evan Turner in the playoffs.
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[iavikefn]

Only huge difference there will be in our guard rankings is that I'm going to have John Jenkins significantly higher than you've got him. Best stroke in the class should elevate his stock big-time.

Other than that, nothing too glaring. I'll probably have Tony Wroten and Scott Machado above Marquis Teague, but all will be top-30 players on my board.
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[Dr. Philly]

What would be the idea Iguodala deal.

And I like what you've done so far.
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[Dr. Philly]

[CWood21]

Here is version 1.1 of my mock.

1.) New Orleans Hornets - Anthony Davis [PF; Kentucky]
2.) Charlotte Bobcats - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist [SF; Kentucky]
3.) Washington Wizards - Bradley Beal [SG; Florida]
4.) Cleveland Cavaliers - Harrison Barnes [SF; North Carolina]
5.) Sacramento Kings - Thomas Robinson [PF; Kansas]
6.) Portland Trailblazers (from Brooklyn) - Damian Lillard [PG; Weber State]
7.) Golden State Warriors - Jeremy Lamb [SG; UConn]
8.) Toronto Raptors - Dion Waiters [SG; Syracuse]
9.) Detroit Pistons - Andre Drummond [C; UConn]
10.) New Orleans Hornets (from Minnesota) - Meyers Leonard [C; Illinois]
11.) Portland Trailblazers - Jared Sullinger [PF/C; Ohio State]
12.) Milwaukee Bucks - Terrence Ross [SG/SF; Washington]
13.) Phoenix Suns - Terrence Jones [SF/PF; Kentucky]
14.) Houston Rockets - Austin Rivers [SG; Duke]
15.) Philadelphia 76ers - Tyler Zeller [C; North Carolina]
16.) Houston Rockets (from New York) - John Henson [PF; North Carolina]
17.) Dallas Mavericks - Perry Jones III [PF; Baylor]
18.) Minnesota Timberwolves (from Utah) - Moe Harkless [SF; St. John's]
19.) Orlando Magic - Kendall Marshall [PG; North Carolina]
20.) Denver Nuggets - Evan Fournier [SG/SF; France]
21.) Boston Celtics - Marquis Teague [PG; Kentucky]
22.) Boston Celtics (from L.A. Clippers) - Jeff Taylor [SF; Vanderbilt]
23.) Atlanta Hawks - Arnett Moultrie [PF; Mississippi State]
24.) Cleveland Cavaliers (from L.A. Lakers) - Doron Lamb [SG; Kentucky]
25.) Memphis Grizzlies - Tony Wroten [PG/SG; Washington]
26.) Indiana Pacers - John Jenkins [SG; Vanderbilt]
27.) Miami Heat - Fab Melo [C; Syracuse]
28.) Oklahoma City Thunder - Kevin Jones [PF; West Virginia]
29.) Chicago Bulls - Tyshawn Taylor [PG; Kansas]
30.) Golden State Warriors (from San Antonio) - Darius Miller [SF; Kentucky]
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[11sanchez11]

Terrance Jones to Suns? Woul prefer Ross but I like it either way.