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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Players with Trade Value, Matt Moore? Reply with quote

Now I'm not saying we should trade Moore but his value could be at his highest currently. I actually think he did a great job last year and wasnt given much credit for his performances. The FO claim to want depth but would they turn down a decent offer?

I wouldn't trade him unless we got an offer of a 3rd round pick or equivalent but got me thinking of who we have on the roster who maybe expendable or available.

I suppose it would all be about value but some players have large contracts who the FO may want to shift to sign Long/Wake to new deals.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I see Moore having another season as starter, and on that basis there's no reason why his stock shouldn't rise further.

I think he has the most value to us as a buffer for Tannehill, who should not be starting yet. If we traded Moore, then we would need to bring in a new starter or else start Garrard. I don't see much logic in that.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm torn as to what the best strategy would be. Throwing Tannehill into the fire might be too much but then again Moore might not fit in our offense and I hate Garrard.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the Browns drafting Weeden in the 1st round, I think virtually every team in the league now has 'answered' the QB question meaning that trading for Moore would be to acquire a back-up. I'd rather have Moore in Miami than another late-rounder considering that Tannehill is going to need grooming. Moore may in fact be our best option as a starter going into the season anyhow. I agree with Deets in regard to Garrard.

I'm not sure anyone else on the offense is expandable. Bush & Long have appreciable value but are needed. Defensively, no one of significance is expendable at this point.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to trade Matt Moore yet. In the event of a three-way camp battle between Moore, Garrard, and Tannehill I see Moore easily winning out and being our starter on Day 1. With the way he played last year, there is really no reason for us not to give him a shot... it's not like anyone else is going to give us value for our garbage, anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a team that has been as QB starved as we are, my instincts say to not trade someone who is either a solid starter or an excellent backup. But if the handwriting is on the wall with Tannehill waiting to start, Moore almost certainly will bolt for a chance to start. And if that's the case, we would be better off trading him for something as opposed to getting nothing when he leaves.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deadeye wrote:
For a team that has been as QB starved as we are, my instincts say to not trade someone who is either a solid starter or an excellent backup. But if the handwriting is on the wall with Tannehill waiting to start, Moore almost certainly will bolt for a chance to start. And if that's the case, we would be better off trading him for something as opposed to getting nothing when he leaves.


Exactly my feelings on the subject. If Moore is going to bolt after the year, we may as well try and get something out of him. Garrard isn't anything special, but he should provide ample competition for Tannehill this year.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Players with Trade Value, Matt Moore? Reply with quote

mountainpd wrote:
Now I'm not saying we should trade Moore but his value could be at his highest currently. I actually think he did a great job last year and wasnt given much credit for his performances. The FO claim to want depth but would they turn down a decent offer?

I wouldn't trade him unless we got an offer of a 3rd round pick or equivalent but got me thinking of who we have on the roster who maybe expendable or available.

I suppose it would all be about value but some players have large contracts who the FO may want to shift to sign Long/Wake to new deals.


I'd rather keep Matt Moore in the roster. Have the 3 of them battle it out in training camp and let the best man win.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would trade Jake Long. He is going to have some issues in this system if they pass as much as I think.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ovaw8lover wrote:
I would trade Jake Long. He is going to have some issues in this system if they pass as much as I think.
Could Philbin's system be tweaked to run more given Long's skillset? I'm not opposed to trading Long if it really is in Miami's best interests, but Jake Long, man I love that guy. I'd hate to see him go.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd trade Moore or Garrard right before the trade deadline if there is a demand.
I think they moved it back this year.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deadeye wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
I would trade Jake Long. He is going to have some issues in this system if they pass as much as I think.
Could Philbin's system be tweaked to run more given Long's skillset? I'm not opposed to trading Long if it really is in Miami's best interests, but Jake Long, man I love that guy. I'd hate to see him go.


I dont mean to suggest Long will suck. He is too good a tackle for that to happen. He is most effect with the element of run. I also do not view him as a zone blocking offensive lineman and that is expected to be the blocking scheme of choice. They really need to consider drafting a guard to replace Incognito. It is not going to work with him and this system.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ovaw8lover wrote:
Deadeye wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
I would trade Jake Long. He is going to have some issues in this system if they pass as much as I think.
Could Philbin's system be tweaked to run more given Long's skillset? I'm not opposed to trading Long if it really is in Miami's best interests, but Jake Long, man I love that guy. I'd hate to see him go.


I dont mean to suggest Long will suck. He is too good a tackle for that to happen. He is most effect with the element of run. I also do not view him as a zone blocking offensive lineman and that is expected to be the blocking scheme of choice. They really need to consider drafting a guard to replace Incognito. It is not going to work with him and this system.
So if Martin fits what we want to do (ZBS), is there any possibility of actually moving Jake to RT? It seems weird, and would obviously be viewed as a demotion. But could such a move fly?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deadeye wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
Deadeye wrote:
ovaw8lover wrote:
I would trade Jake Long. He is going to have some issues in this system if they pass as much as I think.
Could Philbin's system be tweaked to run more given Long's skillset? I'm not opposed to trading Long if it really is in Miami's best interests, but Jake Long, man I love that guy. I'd hate to see him go.


I dont mean to suggest Long will suck. He is too good a tackle for that to happen. He is most effect with the element of run. I also do not view him as a zone blocking offensive lineman and that is expected to be the blocking scheme of choice. They really need to consider drafting a guard to replace Incognito. It is not going to work with him and this system.
So if Martin fits what we want to do (ZBS), is there any possibility of actually moving Jake to RT? It seems weird, and would obviously be viewed as a demotion. But could such a move fly?


That's what I was going to say... Move Long to RT atleast for this season... if he don't work.. we can always trade him next yr.

also any chance we draft a C and move Pouncey to OG....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think this new offensive blocking scheme will help save Long's career. The old power blocking scheme was tearing up his shoulders. Now he won't have to power block any more and I think the injuries will go way down.
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