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At this point I would argue our defense is more suited for a 34 base
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I was caught up with the fam. Priorities.
I wouldn't have taken Guyton, Geathers will easily be better than him this year.
Guys I would have considered:
Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota
Audie Cole, MLB, NC State
Janzen Jackson, FS, McNeese State
Darius Fleming, LB, Notre Dame
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Anonymous3
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Working on making a 34 defense for shoots and giggles. What to do with Peko and Thompson? I actually feel Peko would be best at 5-Tech, unless we ran a Dallas-style 34, in which he'd be best at NT.
Thompson, I'm not so sure. Sims is the obvious backup NT to whoever starts there, but I feel Thompson could play both DE and NT in a 34. Lots of versatility.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Anonymous3 wrote: | Working on making a 34 defense for shoots and giggles. What to do with Peko and Thompson? I actually feel Peko would be best at 5-Tech, unless we ran a Dallas-style 34, in which he'd be best at NT.
Thompson, I'm not so sure. Sims is the obvious backup NT to whoever starts there, but I feel Thompson could play both DE and NT in a 34. Lots of versatility. |
Is Zimmer fired then? Cuz that's the only way that makes sense.
For an occasional 3-4 look, Peko would play NT. The couple of elephant ends the team has would play the 5-Tech.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: FFMD Part 1+1 |
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| Anonymous3 wrote: | Hello ladies n gents...welcome to...
FFMD PART 1+1
Along with sparky151, we shall lead all Bengals fans to compiling the perfect mock draft...
So far, this is how the real Bengals offseason has played out. Since this is the second version of FFMD, FA is already completed and rosters will be frozen within the next few days. Luckily for us, I believe we've retained all who we needed to.
Bengals' Free Agents:
Cedric Benson - RB - Unsigned
Chris Pressely - FB - Re-signed
Jerome Simpson - WR - Unsigned
Andre Caldwell - WR - Signed with Denver Broncos
Bo Scaife - TE - Unsigned
Donald Lee - TE - Unsigned
Anthony Collins - T - Re-signed
Dennis Roland - RT - Re-signed
Bobbie Williams - RG - Unsigned
Nate Livings - LG - Signed with Dallas Cowboys
Mike McGlynn - G/C - Signed with Indianapolis Colts
Frostee Rucker - LE - Signed with Cleveland Browns
Jon Fanene - UT/LE - Signed with New England Patriots
Pat Sims - NT - Re-signed
Nick Hayden - UT - Re-signed
Manny Lawson - SLB - Re-signed
Brandon Johnson - WLB - Unsigned
Dan Skuta - LB - Re-signed
Adam Jones - CB - Re-signed
Kelly Jennings - CB - Unsigned
Reggie Nelson - FS - Re-signed
Gibril Wilson - S - Unsigned
Mike Nugent - K - Franchised
Other Free Agents:
BenJarvus Green-Ellis "The Law Firm" - RB - Formerly of the New England Patriots
Travelle Wharton - LG - Formerly of the Carolina Panthers
Derrick Harvey - RE - Formerly of the Denver Broncos
Jamaal Anderson - UT/LE - Formerly of the Indianapolis Colts
Jason Allen - CB - Formerly of the Houston Texans
Trades:
Texans recieve: 2012 5th Round (#166; from Patriots)
Bengals recieve: Jabar Gaffney, WR
Seahawks recieve: Keith Rivers, WLB
Bengals recieve: 2013 4th Round
2012 Selections:
Round 1 (#17) - Cordy Glenn - G/T - Georgia
Round 1 (#21; from Oakland) - Mark Barron - SS - Alabama
Round 2 (#53) - Brandon Thompson - DT - Clemson
Round 3 (#83) - LaMichael James - RB - Oregon
Round 4 (#116) - Nick Toon - WR - Wisconsin
Round 5 (#156) - Trevor Guyton - DE - California
Round 6 (#191) -
2013 Selections:
Round 1 (Bengals)
Round 2 (Bengals)
Round 2 (Raiders; becomes 1st if Raiders play in the AFC title game)
Round 3 (Bengals)
Round 4 (Bengals)
Round 4 (Seahawks)
Round 5 (Bengals)
Round 6 (Bengals)
Round 7 (Bengals)
Current Roster:
Offense
QB - Andy Dalton, Bruce Gradkowski, Zac Robinson
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis, LaMichael James, Bernard Scott, Brian Leonard, Cedric Peerman, Aaron Brown
FB - Chris Pressely, James Develin
WR (X) - A.J. Green, Armon Binn, Vidal Hazleton
WR (Z) - Jabar Gaffney, Nick Toon, Ryan Whalen
WR (Y) - Jordan Shipley, Andrew Hawkins, Brandon Tate
TE - Jermaine Gresham, Colin Cochart
LT - Andrew Whitworth, Anthony Collins
LG - Travelle Wharton, Otis Hudson
C - Kyle Cook, Clint Boling
RG - Cordy Glenn, Clint Boling
RT - Andre Smith, Dennis Roland, Matthew O'Donnell
Defense
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LE - Carlos Dunlap, Robert Geathers, Trevor Guyton
UT - Geno Atkins, Brandon Thompson, Jamaal Anderson, Nick Hayden
NT - Domata Peko, Pat Sims
RE - Michael Johnson, Derrick Harvey
WLB - Thomas Howard, Vincent Rey
MLB - Rey Maualuga, Roddrick Muckelroy, Dan Skuta
SLB - Manny Lawson, Dontay Moch, Micah Johnson
LCB - Leon Hall, Jason Allen, Rico Murray
FS - Reggie Nelson, Brandon Ghee
SS - Mark Barron, Taylor Mays, Robert Sands, Chris Crocker, Jeromy Miles
RCB - Nate Clements, Adam Jones
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LE - Carlos Dunlap, Trevor Guyton, Jamaal Anderson
NT - Domata Peko, Pat Sims
RE - Geno Atkins, Brandon Thompson, Nick Hayden
Sam - Manny Lawson, Derrick Harvey, Micah Johnson
Will - Thomas Howard, Vincent Rey
Mike - Rey Maualuga, Roddrick Muckelroy, Dan Skuta
Jack - Michael Johnson, Dontay Moch, Robert Geathers
LCB - Leon Hall, Jason Allen, Rico Murray
FS - Reggie Nelson, Brandon Ghee
SS - Mark Barron, Taylor Mays, Robert Sands, Chris Crocker, Jeromy Miles
RCB - Nate Clements, Adam Jones
Special Teams
K - Mike Nugent, Thomas Weber
P - Kevin Huber
LS - Clark Harris
PR - LaMichael James, Adam Jones
KR - LaMichael James, Andrew Hawkins
Untouchable
Acquired Via Trade
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| theJ wrote: | | Anonymous3 wrote: | Working on making a 34 defense for shoots and giggles. What to do with Peko and Thompson? I actually feel Peko would be best at 5-Tech, unless we ran a Dallas-style 34, in which he'd be best at NT.
Thompson, I'm not so sure. Sims is the obvious backup NT to whoever starts there, but I feel Thompson could play both DE and NT in a 34. Lots of versatility. |
Is Zimmer fired then? Cuz that's the only way that makes sense.
For an occasional 3-4 look, Peko would play NT. The couple of elephant ends the team has would play the 5-Tech. |
Why would Zimmer not run 34 looks if we have the players to make very succesful looks there?
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Love the way this team is built
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Anonymous3 wrote: | | Actually play RE at competitive level. Koch can't. Both me as Duke were against taking someone with the notion to replace Geathers. Against taking someone with his skillset. We both posted a pass rusher was the best option. If not Law, we should've picked someone more similar skillset to Law per 2-1 poster agreement. plus it's the 5th round. we could've skipped our pick until at least someone could've weighed in |
We were on the clock from 8-9 PM. You posted at 8, then departed. Duke wasn't around either to say who he wanted. He posted his list 2 hours after we went on the clock. Other posters have indicated in the past they want to replace Geathers so that's not really the question. The question is who to take with our draft pick. I checked 3 widely available draft sites, CBS Sportsline, Great Blue North, and National Football Post and Guyton was the best DE left in their ratings. Cordarro Law was only rated by 1 of those sites, who had him as a UDFA and the others only went 50 players deep at DE so they didn't have him rated as either a DE or LB. If it makes you happy we can take Coryell Judie with our 6th round pick if he's available, which he still is at the moment. |
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If Law makes it out of the 5th round IRL, I'd be shocked. He and Massaquoi are my two most underrated lineman and both, in the right system, will be surprise late round picks. Oh well. I don't really care about Coryell. He probably won't be around anyway and I'd rather keep Ghee as a 5th CB and back-up FS. Allows us to keep Barron, Mays, Sands and Myles.
For our next pick we could go about anywhere. QB to knock Robinson off the PS, because he's going nowhere in the NFL. CFL QB at best. Could go FB to compete with Pressely. If Terrance Ganaway is still available he'd be my #1 choice. RB in college, seems like a more larger, physical Leonard who can actually contribute at FB especially in a WCO. We could take a project TE, G, or C. On defense we could target a LB. Not really worried who at this point. The only late round prospects I would've targeted will be gone.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| sparky151 wrote: | | Other posters have indicated in the past they want to replace Geathers so that's not really the question. |
Who? Unless he's being replaced with an early pick it's absolutely pointless. i don't know how to get that point across to you. Contract year. Only four million dollars. He's not going anywhere, until probably now since we have Guyton and it's stupid to waste a 5th round pick on him if he won't make our roster.
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| Anonymous3 wrote: | | sparky151 wrote: | | Other posters have indicated in the past they want to replace Geathers so that's not really the question. |
Who? Unless he's being replaced with an early pick it's absolutely pointless. i don't know how to get that point across to you. Contract year. Only four million dollars. He's not going anywhere, until probably now since we have Guyton and it's stupid to waste a 5th round pick on him if he won't make our roster. |
What? Robert Geathers is one of the worst pass rushers in the NFL. There is zero reason he should get any snaps at any price. Any random guy off the street can be as productive as him for much cheaper.
It's like saying Nate Livings or Eric Ghiaciuc is in a contract year so we shouldn't dump them. We should dump them because they are hot garbage...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| TheVillain112 wrote: | | It's like saying Nate Livings or Eric Ghiaciuc is in a contract year so we shouldn't dump them. We should dump them because they are hot garbage... |
Was going to stay out of this one, but I do disagree with this part. offensive linemen don't get better in contract years, but "stat" positions do quite a bit. I wouldn't be shocked if Geathers ends up with 5 or 6 sacks this year, as he will be auditioning for his next contract. Kinda worked out for Rucker and fanene, didn't it?
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| INbengalfan wrote: | | TheVillain112 wrote: | | It's like saying Nate Livings or Eric Ghiaciuc is in a contract year so we shouldn't dump them. We should dump them because they are hot garbage... |
Was going to stay out of this one, but I do disagree with this part. offensive linemen don't get better in contract years, but "stat" positions do quite a bit. I wouldn't be shocked if Geathers ends up with 5 or 6 sacks this year, as he will be auditioning for his next contract. Kinda worked out for Rucker and fanene, didn't it? |
Rucker just had to stay healthy and Fanene was up and down like he always was. Fanene's pass rushing efficiency was pretty bad as well. I don't see how Fanene was better last year then he was in 2009 before he got hurt?
Geathers was on the decline and then had micro-fracture surgery. Since then he hasn't done jack...
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| We'll be on the clock with our final pick at 11 PM. |
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Would you guys be interested in Alphonso Smith for your 6th rounder? He's a good slot corner but the way the draft fell we happened to get a better rookie and a lack of WR depth so WRs could be of some interest as well. PM Tyler2015 if interested!
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