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brownie man
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I'd trade down unless Nick Perry is there.
But I like the idea you could trade 22 for a 2nd this year 2nd next year to make up for the one we trade for RG3 and a late round pick which would pretty much put us even that would be amazing.
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LETSGOBROWNIES
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | wukusimw wrote: | Thinking about it last night I say give them two firsts, but not this year. That #22 could be extremely valuable to us, even more so then next years first. Next year it would most likely be a pass rusher or olineman, and at #22 Kendall Wright, Zach Brown, or a top pass rusher that falls would be more favorable IMO. In addition, the trade down from 22 to 29 or so and picking up a 3rd would be even more preferable. Hold on to #22!
#4, 37, 4th and next years 1st and a 4th max |
I highly doubt #22 would be more valuable than next years 1st.
How many times since our return have we picked lower than 22?
Just sayin'...... |
time value of money makes 22 this year more valuable than next years first |
I understand that according to draft charts, etc that 22 is valued higher.
I'm also willing to bet that our pick next year will be higher than 22 and next March folks will think that is the most valuable pick ever.
Don't be a victim of the moment and devalue future assets, it's short sighted at best. Odds are likely, according to recent history, that our first next year will be a top 10 pick, possibly top 5.
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RabidDawgs
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| LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | wukusimw wrote: | Thinking about it last night I say give them two firsts, but not this year. That #22 could be extremely valuable to us, even more so then next years first. Next year it would most likely be a pass rusher or olineman, and at #22 Kendall Wright, Zach Brown, or a top pass rusher that falls would be more favorable IMO. In addition, the trade down from 22 to 29 or so and picking up a 3rd would be even more preferable. Hold on to #22!
#4, 37, 4th and next years 1st and a 4th max |
I highly doubt #22 would be more valuable than next years 1st.
How many times since our return have we picked lower than 22?
Just sayin'...... |
time value of money makes 22 this year more valuable than next years first |
I understand that according to draft charts, etc that 22 is valued higher.
I'm also willing to bet that our pick next year will be higher than 22 and next March folks will think that is the most valuable pick ever.
Don't be a victim of the moment and devalue future assets, it's short sighted at best. Odds are likely, according to recent history, that our first next year will be a top 10 pick, possibly top 5. |
Of course our 2013 pick will be a premium and a very high pick we are the BROWNS!!!!! after all
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brownsfan214
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| RabidDawgs wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | wukusimw wrote: | Thinking about it last night I say give them two firsts, but not this year. That #22 could be extremely valuable to us, even more so then next years first. Next year it would most likely be a pass rusher or olineman, and at #22 Kendall Wright, Zach Brown, or a top pass rusher that falls would be more favorable IMO. In addition, the trade down from 22 to 29 or so and picking up a 3rd would be even more preferable. Hold on to #22!
#4, 37, 4th and next years 1st and a 4th max |
I highly doubt #22 would be more valuable than next years 1st.
How many times since our return have we picked lower than 22?
Just sayin'...... |
time value of money makes 22 this year more valuable than next years first |
I understand that according to draft charts, etc that 22 is valued higher.
I'm also willing to bet that our pick next year will be higher than 22 and next March folks will think that is the most valuable pick ever.
Don't be a victim of the moment and devalue future assets, it's short sighted at best. Odds are likely, according to recent history, that our first next year will be a top 10 pick, possibly top 5. |
Of course our 2013 pick will be a premium and a very high pick we are the BROWNS!!!!! after all |
Hey thats what the Cowboys thought in 2007, and look what happened. |
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LETSGOBROWNIES
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| brownsfan214 wrote: | | RabidDawgs wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | wukusimw wrote: | Thinking about it last night I say give them two firsts, but not this year. That #22 could be extremely valuable to us, even more so then next years first. Next year it would most likely be a pass rusher or olineman, and at #22 Kendall Wright, Zach Brown, or a top pass rusher that falls would be more favorable IMO. In addition, the trade down from 22 to 29 or so and picking up a 3rd would be even more preferable. Hold on to #22!
#4, 37, 4th and next years 1st and a 4th max |
I highly doubt #22 would be more valuable than next years 1st.
How many times since our return have we picked lower than 22?
Just sayin'...... |
time value of money makes 22 this year more valuable than next years first |
I understand that according to draft charts, etc that 22 is valued higher.
I'm also willing to bet that our pick next year will be higher than 22 and next March folks will think that is the most valuable pick ever.
Don't be a victim of the moment and devalue future assets, it's short sighted at best. Odds are likely, according to recent history, that our first next year will be a top 10 pick, possibly top 5. |
Of course our 2013 pick will be a premium and a very high pick we are the BROWNS!!!!! after all |
Hey thats what the Cowboys thought in 2007, and look what happened. |
The gave us the 22nd pick for our 2nd and the 22nd the next year (IIRC). That's not exactly showing them who's boss.
No to mention, that's the lowest draft spot we've had since our return. Kind of a best case scenario, no?
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brownsfan214
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | brownsfan214 wrote: | | RabidDawgs wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | wukusimw wrote: | Thinking about it last night I say give them two firsts, but not this year. That #22 could be extremely valuable to us, even more so then next years first. Next year it would most likely be a pass rusher or olineman, and at #22 Kendall Wright, Zach Brown, or a top pass rusher that falls would be more favorable IMO. In addition, the trade down from 22 to 29 or so and picking up a 3rd would be even more preferable. Hold on to #22!
#4, 37, 4th and next years 1st and a 4th max |
I highly doubt #22 would be more valuable than next years 1st.
How many times since our return have we picked lower than 22?
Just sayin'...... |
time value of money makes 22 this year more valuable than next years first |
I understand that according to draft charts, etc that 22 is valued higher.
I'm also willing to bet that our pick next year will be higher than 22 and next March folks will think that is the most valuable pick ever.
Don't be a victim of the moment and devalue future assets, it's short sighted at best. Odds are likely, according to recent history, that our first next year will be a top 10 pick, possibly top 5. |
Of course our 2013 pick will be a premium and a very high pick we are the BROWNS!!!!! after all |
Hey thats what the Cowboys thought in 2007, and look what happened. |
The gave us the 22nd pick for our 2nd and the 22nd the next year (IIRC). That's not exactly showing them who's boss.
No to mention, that's the lowest draft spot we've had since our return. Kind of a best case scenario, no? |
Hang on is this an argument against me or are you agreeing. To me it played out pretty well, Quinn wasnt that good but at least we didnt finish in the top 5. |
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LETSGOBROWNIES
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| brownsfan214 wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | brownsfan214 wrote: | | RabidDawgs wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | wukusimw wrote: | Thinking about it last night I say give them two firsts, but not this year. That #22 could be extremely valuable to us, even more so then next years first. Next year it would most likely be a pass rusher or olineman, and at #22 Kendall Wright, Zach Brown, or a top pass rusher that falls would be more favorable IMO. In addition, the trade down from 22 to 29 or so and picking up a 3rd would be even more preferable. Hold on to #22!
#4, 37, 4th and next years 1st and a 4th max |
I highly doubt #22 would be more valuable than next years 1st.
How many times since our return have we picked lower than 22?
Just sayin'...... |
time value of money makes 22 this year more valuable than next years first |
I understand that according to draft charts, etc that 22 is valued higher.
I'm also willing to bet that our pick next year will be higher than 22 and next March folks will think that is the most valuable pick ever.
Don't be a victim of the moment and devalue future assets, it's short sighted at best. Odds are likely, according to recent history, that our first next year will be a top 10 pick, possibly top 5. |
Of course our 2013 pick will be a premium and a very high pick we are the BROWNS!!!!! after all |
Hey thats what the Cowboys thought in 2007, and look what happened. |
The gave us the 22nd pick for our 2nd and the 22nd the next year (IIRC). That's not exactly showing them who's boss.
No to mention, that's the lowest draft spot we've had since our return. Kind of a best case scenario, no? |
Hang on is this an argument against me or are you agreeing. To me it played out pretty well, Quinn wasnt that good but at least we didnt finish in the top 5. |
I'm not arguing for or against anyone, simply pointing out facts.
The fact that we gave the 'Boys the 22nd pick was a best case scenario. My point in all of this is that I'd rather trade the known for the unknown. Had the Browns had a 'typical' year and sent the Cowboys a top 10 pick, folks around here would still be pissed about it.
If we trade picks this year, we know what we are offering and there are no variables. This is a better situation, to me anyway, than trading an 'unknown' first rounder next year.
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brownsfan214
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | brownsfan214 wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | brownsfan214 wrote: | | RabidDawgs wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | LETSGOBROWNIES wrote: | | wukusimw wrote: | Thinking about it last night I say give them two firsts, but not this year. That #22 could be extremely valuable to us, even more so then next years first. Next year it would most likely be a pass rusher or olineman, and at #22 Kendall Wright, Zach Brown, or a top pass rusher that falls would be more favorable IMO. In addition, the trade down from 22 to 29 or so and picking up a 3rd would be even more preferable. Hold on to #22!
#4, 37, 4th and next years 1st and a 4th max |
I highly doubt #22 would be more valuable than next years 1st.
How many times since our return have we picked lower than 22?
Just sayin'...... |
time value of money makes 22 this year more valuable than next years first |
I understand that according to draft charts, etc that 22 is valued higher.
I'm also willing to bet that our pick next year will be higher than 22 and next March folks will think that is the most valuable pick ever.
Don't be a victim of the moment and devalue future assets, it's short sighted at best. Odds are likely, according to recent history, that our first next year will be a top 10 pick, possibly top 5. |
Of course our 2013 pick will be a premium and a very high pick we are the BROWNS!!!!! after all |
Hey thats what the Cowboys thought in 2007, and look what happened. |
The gave us the 22nd pick for our 2nd and the 22nd the next year (IIRC). That's not exactly showing them who's boss.
No to mention, that's the lowest draft spot we've had since our return. Kind of a best case scenario, no? |
Hang on is this an argument against me or are you agreeing. To me it played out pretty well, Quinn wasnt that good but at least we didnt finish in the top 5. |
I'm not arguing for or against anyone, simply pointing out facts.
The fact that we gave the 'Boys the 22nd pick was a best case scenario. My point in all of this is that I'd rather trade the known for the unknown. Had the Browns had a 'typical' year and sent the Cowboys a top 10 pick, folks around here would still be pissed about it.
If we trade picks this year, we know what we are offering and there are no variables. This is a better situation, to me anyway, than trading an 'unknown' first rounder next year. |
Oh ok I gotcha, and I agree, I really hate trading next years first because you just never know, if your stars get injured and you finish in the top 5 I would cry... really bad |
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wukusimw
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah I agree as well, if it ends up being a top ten pick then that would being a disaster. Well unless our 22 panned out well this year...who knows the end result just work your magic Heckert we will support you no matter what at this point |
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