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brncos4life
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 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: no trade stay at 4? |
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| if u guys get flynn and stay at 4 who do u take? luck..rg3..kalil off board. |
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ditchdigger
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We won't get Flynn. He's a backup with a weak arm, just like McCoy.
We won't stay at 4. If we miss out on RG3, we'll try our best to trade down.
So, your question is pointless. |
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brncos4life
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| ditchdigger wrote: | We won't get Flynn. He's a backup with a weak arm, just like McCoy.
We won't stay at 4. If we miss out on RG3, we'll try our best to trade down.
So, your question is pointless. |
all i have been hearing is flynn to browns...hes not mccoy and would do good in browns offense..add blacmon or richardson at 4 |
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ditchdigger
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| brncos4life wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | We won't get Flynn. He's a backup with a weak arm, just like McCoy.
We won't stay at 4. If we miss out on RG3, we'll try our best to trade down.
So, your question is pointless. |
all i have been hearing is flynn to browns...hes not mccoy and would do good in browns offense..add blacmon or richardson at 4 |
Not sure where you're hearing it, but they're wrong.
The market for Flynn is Miami and Seattle - teams who have no shot at RG3, yet are desperate as ---- for a QB.
He's an older version of McCoy: a short, physically limited, weak-armed guy who came from a winning collegiate program.
Flynn's pimps will even concede that his ceiling is "above average starter", and not one of those people will tell you he is there YET.
So we have to wait for a 27 year-old QB to develop into an "above average starter"?
No.
Mediocrity is not what we're aiming for. |
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buno67
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ditchdigger wrote: | | brncos4life wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | We won't get Flynn. He's a backup with a weak arm, just like McCoy.
We won't stay at 4. If we miss out on RG3, we'll try our best to trade down.
So, your question is pointless. |
all i have been hearing is flynn to browns...hes not mccoy and would do good in browns offense..add blacmon or richardson at 4 |
Not sure where you're hearing it, but they're wrong.
The market for Flynn is Miami and Seattle - teams who have no shot at RG3, yet are desperate as ---- for a QB.
He's an older version of McCoy: a short, physically limited, weak-armed guy who came from a winning collegiate program.
Flynn's pimps will even concede that his ceiling is "above average starter", and not one of those people will tell you he is there YET.
So we have to wait for a 27 year-old QB to develop into an "above average starter"?
No.
Mediocrity is not what we're aiming for. |
Flynn isnt short, he is a legit 6'2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgdBocjHaQE
watching his highlights against the lion to me he looks to have arm strength to be avg to above avg.
He would be a great fit for the Browns because he does everything you for the WCO and has great experience of playing in the WCO and has been learning from the best WCO QB in the game in Aaron Rodgers. If we decided to go the Flynn route than its still a good option.
I think the browns are in position this off season to really make this team better and not just sitting there doing nothing!!!
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The OUTLAW
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I also don't see us getting Flynn. That being said, I'd think we'd take Blackmon.
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ditchdigger
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| buno67 wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | | brncos4life wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | We won't get Flynn. He's a backup with a weak arm, just like McCoy.
We won't stay at 4. If we miss out on RG3, we'll try our best to trade down.
So, your question is pointless. |
all i have been hearing is flynn to browns...hes not mccoy and would do good in browns offense..add blacmon or richardson at 4 |
Not sure where you're hearing it, but they're wrong.
The market for Flynn is Miami and Seattle - teams who have no shot at RG3, yet are desperate as ---- for a QB.
He's an older version of McCoy: a short, physically limited, weak-armed guy who came from a winning collegiate program.
Flynn's pimps will even concede that his ceiling is "above average starter", and not one of those people will tell you he is there YET.
So we have to wait for a 27 year-old QB to develop into an "above average starter"?
No.
Mediocrity is not what we're aiming for. |
Flynn isnt short, he is a legit 6'2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgdBocjHaQE
watching his highlights against the lion to me he looks to have arm strength to be avg to above avg.
He would be a great fit for the Browns because he does everything you for the WCO and has great experience of playing in the WCO and has been learning from the best WCO QB in the game in Aaron Rodgers. If we decided to go the Flynn route than its still a good option.
I think the browns are in position this off season to really make this team better and not just sitting there doing nothing!!! |
Trading up for RG3 is far from nothing.
Flynn is an above average backup.
Maybe he is 6'2", and technically that's not short, but it's not really outstanding in any way either (like everything else about him).
Learning behind someone doesn't make them good, just ask Curtis Painter.
Yes, he's a WCO guy, but he's a WCO backup. Making Matt Flynn the starter for the Browns is a committment to mediocrity. And a cue to the fanbase stop giving a ---- about this team for another couple years. |
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DawgSoldier
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: no trade stay at 4? |
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| brncos4life wrote: | | if u guys get flynn and stay at 4 who do u take? luck..rg3..kalil off board. |
Floyd. He address's the biggest need and he has closed the gap on Blackmon considerably with his combine performance.
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buno67
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| ditchdigger wrote: | | buno67 wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | | brncos4life wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | We won't get Flynn. He's a backup with a weak arm, just like McCoy.
We won't stay at 4. If we miss out on RG3, we'll try our best to trade down.
So, your question is pointless. |
all i have been hearing is flynn to browns...hes not mccoy and would do good in browns offense..add blacmon or richardson at 4 |
Not sure where you're hearing it, but they're wrong.
The market for Flynn is Miami and Seattle - teams who have no shot at RG3, yet are desperate as ---- for a QB.
He's an older version of McCoy: a short, physically limited, weak-armed guy who came from a winning collegiate program.
Flynn's pimps will even concede that his ceiling is "above average starter", and not one of those people will tell you he is there YET.
So we have to wait for a 27 year-old QB to develop into an "above average starter"?
No.
Mediocrity is not what we're aiming for. |
Flynn isnt short, he is a legit 6'2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgdBocjHaQE
watching his highlights against the lion to me he looks to have arm strength to be avg to above avg.
He would be a great fit for the Browns because he does everything you for the WCO and has great experience of playing in the WCO and has been learning from the best WCO QB in the game in Aaron Rodgers. If we decided to go the Flynn route than its still a good option.
I think the browns are in position this off season to really make this team better and not just sitting there doing nothing!!! |
Trading up for RG3 is far from nothing.
Flynn is an above average backup.
Maybe he is 6'2", and technically that's not short, but it's not really outstanding in any way either (like everything else about him).
Learning behind someone doesn't make them good, just ask Curtis Painter.
Yes, he's a WCO guy, but he's a WCO backup. Making Matt Flynn the starter for the Browns is a committment to mediocrity. And a cue to the fanbase stop giving a ---- about this team for another couple years. |
you misunderstood my last part of my post...
this off season the browns are in position this off season to really improve this team...if its with the draft or getting someone like Flynn...basically what ever route the Browns go, this team is going to be greatly improved. That it wont be like years past when they really dont do anything to truly improve this team
but truly how good is Flynn? No one knows cause he has been stuck behind the best QB in the league. Yeah he was a back up but a lot of the starters in this league who are pretty good started as back ups...
ok how many of the top QBs in the league started their careers being back up first because they had talent in front of them and had to wait for injuries or retirement
Tom Brady was a back up
Aaron Rodgers was a back up
Schuab was a back up
Romo was a back up
Hasselback was a back up
so being a back up in their career doesnt make them any less of a QB.
Making Matt Flynn the starter for the Browns is a not committment to mediocrity. Its a committment to try and improve the QB position for the Browns
Im not saying I was Flynn as the #1 one option, i want that to be RGIII but he would not be a bad plan B or C
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: no trade stay at 4? |
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| DawgSoldier wrote: | | brncos4life wrote: | | if u guys get flynn and stay at 4 who do u take? luck..rg3..kalil off board. |
Floyd. He address's the biggest need and he has closed the gap on Blackmon considerably with his combine performance. |
no way Floyd goes to #4...yes he improved his stock but he doesnt make him the best WR. He still has character issues where Blackmon doesnt.
Also you dont penalize a player who was hurt. Blackmon's game tape is still more impressive than Floyds
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I think Miami gets Flinn. They are going to a 4/3 defense so they will need their picks to get their 4/3 defense going. If this was our first year going to the 4/3 defense we might be keeping our picks also and sign Flinn. Than who knows.
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Rather than say it wont happen, lets humor these kinds of questions with a response. Say we are at 4 and can't trade down and ended up with Flynn.
I'd say go get the bpa on the board, be it Claiborne, Perry or Blackmon (though Im hesitating more and more about Blackmon. My in-season inclination was to have Floyd over him and after today I am leaning back towards that opinion.)
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ditchdigger
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My opinion is that it won't happen, and that won't change to humor anyone.
How's this: If we sign Flynn and draft at 4, we'll continue to be a joke of a franchise so who cares who we take? |
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I need to see Nick Perrys 40 time
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| cattleman78 wrote: | | I think Miami gets Flinn. They are going to a 4/3 defense so they will need their picks to get their 4/3 defense going. If this was our first year going to the 4/3 defense we might be keeping our picks also and sign Flinn. Than who knows. |
I agree. The NFL has only two games worth of tape against an NFL caliber D. Miami's Philbin however have many days of watching him play against GB's D. He would have a much more informed opinion for handing a guy a huge contract.
If with this extra info, Miami chooses to pass on Flynn...
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