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JaguarCrazy2832


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: JaguarCrazy2832's First Mock of 2012 Be Gentle...UPDATE 2-15 Reply with quote

St. Louis trades #2 to Washington for #6 and their 2nd round pick and a 2013 2nd round pick

1 Indianapolis QB Andrew Luck Stanford
2 Washington (from St. Louis) QB Robert Griffin Baylor
3 Minnesota LT Matt Kalil USC
4 Cleveland WR Justin Blackmon Oklahoma St.
5 Tampa Bay RB Trent Richardson Alabama
6 St. Louis (from Washington) CB Morris Claiborne LSU
7 Jacksonville DE Nick Perry USC
8 Carolina DT Michael Brockers LSU
9 Miami QB Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M
10 Buffalo DE Quinton Coples UNC
11 Kansas City RT Riley Reiff Iowa
12 Seattle DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw Alabama
13 Arizona LT Mike Adams Ohio St.
14 Dallas G David Decastro Stanford
15 Philadelphia WR Michael Floyd Notre Dame
16 New York Jets WR Kendall Wright Baylor
17 Cincinnati CB Dre Kirkpatrick Alabama
18 San Diego ILB Luke Kuechely BC
19 Chicago C Peter Konz Wisconsin
20 Tennessee DT Devon Still PSU
21 Cincinnati RB Lamar Miller Miami
22 Cleveland RT Jonathan Martin Stanford
23 Detroit CB Janoris Jenkins N. Alabama
24 Pittsburgh G Cordy Glenn Georgia
25 Denver DT Fletcher Cox Miss. St.
26 Houston WR Mohammed Sanu Rutgers
27 New England CB Chase Minnifield UVA
28 Green Bay DT Dontari Poe Memphis
29 Baltimore OLB Zach Brown UNC
30 San Francisco WR Alshon Jeffrey South Carolina
31 New England S Mark Barron Alabama
32 New York Giants TE Dwayne Allen Clemson


Dont just say it sucks, because I already know that. Tell me why and who would be better and why he is better


I might not have totally updated your pick, I did most of it from memory
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleveland ill not pass on Blackmon, Richardson or Claiborne for Coples. We need playmakers on offense and Claiborne has a much better draft grade at number 4 then does Coples. I'd be surprised if Floyd fell to us at #22.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great Bengals picks.

DeCastro is fantastic at 17

Any one of Miller, Floyd, Jenkins or Glenn are good at 21
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeCastro is the pick for Dallas with this board, Kirkpatrick is not viewed as high at this point and Dallas has DeCastro as the top guard in the last 10 drafts.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coridu wrote:
Cleveland ill not pass on Blackmon, Richardson or Claiborne for Coples. We need playmakers on offense and Claiborne has a much better draft grade at number 4 then does Coples. I'd be surprised if Floyd fell to us at #22.


Well I think Blackmon falls out of the Top-5 because of the combine, but I guess you can say I'd want him bad enough to think he'd fall to Jacksonville. I think Richardson is great, but the RB class is good and I see Cleveland looking at a 3rd/4th round RB like D. Wilson, Polk, Gray, Pead, Pierce etc. Claiborne is a phenomenal prospect, but idk if Cleveland would invest the 4th overall pick in a #2 CB for their team next to Haden. I think if Cleveland is willing to roll the dice, they could have the best DL in football in a few years for a long time
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waremd wrote:
DeCastro is the pick for Dallas with this board, Kirkpatrick is not viewed as high at this point and Dallas has DeCastro as the top guard in the last 10 drafts.


Really? Why would they let that info out? I think Kirkpatrick isnt a bad pick for them though, they dont seem to have any good CBs
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE DUKE wrote:
Great Bengals picks.

DeCastro is fantastic at 17

Any one of Miller, Floyd, Jenkins or Glenn are good at 21


Sounds like the Decastro pick might not stick for long
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate quinton coples as a prospect. Blackmon for Cleveland all day every day. We need a #1 WR.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

candyman93 wrote:
I hate quinton coples as a prospect. Blackmon for Cleveland all day every day. We need a #1 WR.


I had strongly considered it, but I cant help but feel that Cleveland values WR not as heavily as some teams.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waremd wrote:
DeCastro is the pick for Dallas with this board, Kirkpatrick is not viewed as high at this point and Dallas has DeCastro as the top guard in the last 10 drafts.
not sure where you got that info from. maybe you are buds with ciskowski? anyway, kirkpatrick, decastro and jenkins could all be considered here.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I kinda like this is draft. I only see Cleveland taking Richardson, Claiborne to the bucs, and coples going to st. louis. Also, switch Miami's pick with Seattle's. It makes much more sense. (Miami needs pass rush in new 4-3 defense and Seattle needs a new QB.)

About the first three changed picks, Cleveland would love to have two great pass rushers, but, if you watched (YES ACTUALLY WATCHED) any Browns games, you would see that there was nearly no one to catch the ball or frankly do anything. Richardson and Lloyd would vastly change that. We can draft Barkley next year.
Tampa needs some corners. They have Barber and Talib, but Ronde is getting up there in age and needs someone to take his place. Claiborne and Talib would become one of the best cornerback duos in the league.
St. Louis drafts coples to create a pass rush that there was absent in st. Louis. Jeff Fisher is a guy who builds through the trenches and Coples would become Fisher's crown jewel.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no way Floyd gets past us.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morris Claiborne is head and shoulders about Quinton Coples as BPA and your reasoning for not taking a #2 CB is laughable. If thats the case then why would we want to invest a #4 pick in what would be our #2 DE? Sounds dumb huh?

Also, money is of no concern anymore. Remember with the new CBA the #4 contract this year is looking at something between 19 and 21 million over 4 years.

Coples is a lazy hack looking to get paid and then he's going to shut it down. Claiborne all day.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no way cleveland passes on blackman. now if you like him, make a great offer we can;t refuse.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
I hate quinton coples as a prospect. Blackmon for Cleveland all day every day. We need a #1 WR.


I had strongly considered it, but I cant help but feel that Cleveland values WR not as heavily as some teams.


What gives you that impression?

I think we've drafted a WR in most of our drafts since we've returned in 99'
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