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GoLdRuSh
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Now this post makes me want to see how this years OLB perform during the combine. I expect crazy #'s from Bruce Irvin. He looks really explosive at times; although I think his strength will hinder him in the pros.
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BoomWeddle
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| onejayhawk wrote: | | CharlieKelly wrote: | Glad to see Hali is the statistical anomaly, just amazing how well hes made the transition. He'll beat you with speed, power or moves and wont stop till the game is over, love how he plays the game.
Also Houston is coming around on the other side, and looks like an ideal compliment to Hali. |
Houston has ALL of the coverage assignments, when Hali is in the game. When they take Hali out, blitz, or go with a 2 man DL, Houston gets his chances. Put him in an all ahead role, like Hali, and he gets 15+ sacks.
I agree that it is not surprising that Hali is anoutlier. His tenacity is becoming proverbial.
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Houston is the new utility OLB, much like Mike Vrabel.
Imagine if he and Hali were both rushing the QB every play.
But Houston plays better in space, which is why he is used the way he is. |
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onejayhawk
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Jakuvious
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| TheVillain112 wrote: | | Duffman57 wrote: | | DaRealdeal wrote: | Great study. Thanks for sharing.
After seeing Cam Wake's numbers I'm shocked he wasn't drafted. Those are ridiculous numbers. 45 inch vert?  |
But you have to remember that though he has explosiveness, he was a 225 lb defensive end coming out, so those numbers are from when he was the size of a SS. Its still insane, but those numbers would be VERY different if you tested him now.
But with Hali, his burst/explosion is incredible and I have no idea why that didn't show through in the tests. Suggs is another interesting case. He would be another guy that would be an anomoly if he decided to do the tests. But guys like that get buy with freakish motor and power that doesn't show through in drills |
Hali also uses his hands as well as any pass rusher in the NFL... |
This is basically the biggest thing for Hali. If you pay any attention to him, it's almost impossible not to notice this. He is one of the quickest and most effective at getting an OL's hands off of him.
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Jakuvious
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Crazy thing is Houston, Mark Anderson, and Connor Barwin all had big years this year, and they were the only misses and one of last years rookies on Waldo's last list.
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TheVillain112
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Going to be hard to judge Moch. He was out the majority of the year with severe migraine issues. Hopefully he can get that manageable like Harvin did...
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| TheVillain112 wrote: |
Hali also uses his hands as well as any pass rusher in the NFL... |
If I had to choose one word to describe Hali's style it would be: VIOLENCE.
Houston could learn a thing or two from Hali, because my only gripe with him is he has a tendency to not use his hands which stonewalls him at the POA.
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onejayhawk
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| TheVillain112 wrote: |
Going to be hard to judge Moch. He was out the majority of the year with severe migraine issues. Hopefully he can get that manageable like Harvin did... |
Gabe Miller is the other rookie. He was on IR the whole season, and a lot of raters did not have him in their top 300. If he pans out (5th round pick) then we know something.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| onejayhawk wrote: | | TheVillain112 wrote: |
Going to be hard to judge Moch. He was out the majority of the year with severe migraine issues. Hopefully he can get that manageable like Harvin did... |
Gabe Miller is the other rookie. He was on IR the whole season, and a lot of raters did not have him in their top 300. If he pans out (5th round pick) then we know something.
J |
I think it has validity whether Gabe Miller turns out to be a good pass rusher or not. No formula is going to be perfect, so having 1 or 2 failures would be perfectly acceptable
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CharlieKelly
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| drd23 wrote: |
I think it has validity whether Gabe Miller turns out to be a good pass rusher or not. No formula is going to be perfect, so having 1 or 2 failures would be perfectly acceptable |
Miller actually showed some pretty good stuff in training camp, I think he played all 4 Linebacker positions at one point during a pre-season game IIRC.
He got put on IR, but I heard his injury really wasn't that severe and that we just "redshirted" him. His pass rushing opportunities will be limited with Hali/Houston on the edge but he has potential if he can stay healthy. |
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KamTrus20
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: |
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I'd like to place my bet now that Miles Burris from San Diego State will fit intoo at least 2 of these categories.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nice research. I'm a year late, but its still nice.
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